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Old 05-28-2007, 01:14 AM
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Persistant UTI?


Okay, so the cat has had a peeing problem for a loooong time. We did the antibiotics, he's been eating Rx urinary tract food for over a month, and STILL the uti. He's miserable. He licks himself, and cries. He pees outside of his box. And he WON'T drink water. I know he's dehydrated. But he hates to pee, so he doesn't drink.

So now what? I'm going to take him to the vet soon (tomorrow or the next day), but is there something I can do for him at home? He will not drink chicken broth. He won't drink ANYTHING. I know this has got to be really bad for him, the not drinking, but I don't know what else to do. Earlier I held him down and squirted water into his mouth. Which just made him sooo happy, let me tell you.

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Old 05-28-2007, 07:59 AM
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Hmm I dunno? I know that once when I had my cat she got UTI's and it was so horrable, I felt bad for her. I took her to the vet and they gave me stupid bubble gum medicine to give her, she hated it! You try giving bubble gum medicine to a phyco cat sometime (she was abused before I got her and pretty mean when she wanted to be!). She use to pee all over the place and everything because of them, no matter what medicine the vet gave me they would always come back and we had to feed special food as well. After like the third time I took her to the vet for a UTI, he told me that he thought that they were stress induced because she was such a nervous cat, and that if it didn't stop he wanted to try putting her on medication to calm her down. I thought that made sense, since we had just gotten the dog and she hated the dog, and she hated most people most of the time.

I never got to try out that medication with her though because my parents got rid of her without telling me while I was in school
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Old 05-28-2007, 01:33 PM
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I'm so sorry Mel. I wish I had some help for you. I had to syringe water for my FIP kitty for a while, it was no fun - I was afraid she'd aspirate. The vet always said as long as you go real slow it's pretty safe though cuz the swallow reflex is so strong. Those fluids are so important though - what else do you do? SubQ? That stinks too, and would it even help as much in this situation? I don't know - I suppose it's worth asking.

You may also ask referral to a specialist. From a brief internet search, it seems like there can be underlying physiological reasons for reoccurring UTIs, too.

Here are some articles from the following link, but a specialist would know all about this stuff.
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2. PROBLEM URINARY TRACT INFECTIONS ($4.95 USD, 173 KB) 97%
Dennis J. Chew DVM, Diplomate ACVIM; CA Tony Buffingon, DVM, PhD Diplmate ACVN, The Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio, Boyd Jones BVSc, Diplomate ECVIM, FACVSc, MRCVS, Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, University College Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
ACVS Symposium Equine and Small Animal Proceedings , October 6, 2004

This session investigates the causes of recurrent UTI – reinfection, relapsing infection, and persistent infection. Anatomical, metabolic, and functional predispositions for recurrent UTI are addressed. Effort must be made to exclude the possibilities for previously undetected uroliths or neoplasia, urachal remnant, polypoid cystitis, and ectopic ureters as anatomical considerations that could be addressed surgically. The use of vulvoplasty or episioplasty to reduce reinfections is reviewed. The controversial role of vestibulovaginal stenosis and suggested surgical correction is also considered.

3. Diagnostic and Therapeutic Approach to Urinary Incontinence ($4.95 USD, 59 KB) 96%
Shawn Ann Kearns, D.V.M., Angell Internal Medicine Service
Angell Animal Medical Center CE Seminar Notes, May 22, 2006

Urinary tract infections and urinary incontinence are two of the most common conditions diagnosed in patients exhibiting signs of lower urinary tract disease. Urethral sphincter mechanism incompetence is a common cause of incontinence. Although medical management with α-adrenergic agonists and estrogen therapy is the mainstay of treatment of urethral sphincter mechanism incompetence, assessing response to standard medical therapy is often indicated prior to pursuing other less available diagnostics and treatment options. Other therapies, herein discussed, may be indicated as related to other possible concurrent diseases and /or congential defects.

4. ROLE OF SURGERY IN THE TREATMENT OF UTI ($4.95 USD, 16 KB) 96%
Dale E. Bjorling, DVM, MS, Diplomate ACVS, University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin
ACVS Symposium Equine and Small Animal Proceedings , October 9, 2003

Urinary tract infection (UTI) occurs commonly in dogs; As many as 15% of all dogs develop UTI during their lifetime. It is estimated that urinary tract infection is present in 5% to 43% of cats evaluated for lower urinary tract disease. The presence of renal failure or metabolic disorders such as hyperadrenocorticism or diabetes mellitus predisposes animals to urinary tract infection. Accurate determination of the specific bacteria present and their pattern of sensitivity to antimicrobials are critical to successful treatment of UTI. Recurrent or persistent UTI may be the result of: use of an inappropriate antibiotic; use of an appropriate antibiotic but for an insufficient length of time failure to perform urine culture after antibiotic therapy has been discontinued for at least 7 days to confirm control of the infection, presence of calculi; undetected pyelonephritis; prostate disease or anatomic abnormalities which interfere with treatment of UTI. Surgery, as appropriate to the underlying disorder eg. prostate problems, urolithiasis, diverticulum, etc. may prove to be a useful adjunct to medical treatment of UTI. It should be emphasized that in most instances, surgery will facilitate treatment of UTI, but definitive treatment will require microbial culturing and antibiotic therapy.

5. Surgical Management of Urinary Incontinence ($4.95 USD, 22 KB) 95%
Dale E. Bjorling, DVM, MS, Diplomate ACVS, University of Wisconsin, Madison, Wisconsin
ACVS Symposium Equine and Small Animal Proceedings , October 1, 2002

Urinary incontinence refers to inappropriate retention or discharge of urine, although urinary incontinence is commonly assumed to refer to inappropriate discharge of urine or an inability to retain urine. Under normal circumstances, urinary continence is maintained by a variety of forces acting upon the urethra, including the tone of smooth and striated muscle, elastic tension within the wall of the urethra, intraabdominal pressure acting on the outer surface of the urethra, and the length of the urethra. These combined factors comprise the urethral sphincter mechanism. Various possible treatments are described.

6. AVOIDING AND MANAGING COMPLICATIONS FROM PERINEAL URETHROSTOMIES IN CATS ($4.95 USD, 33 KB) 95%
Daniel D. Smeak, DVM, Diplomate ACVS, College of Veterinary Medicine, The Ohio State University, Columbus, OH
North American Veterinary Conference, January 7, 2006

In male cats, perineal urethrostomy is performed to alleviate chronic or recurrent obstruction of the distal portion of the urethra. It is most commonly performed for urethral obstruction associated with what was once termed feline urologic syndrome, or feline interstitial cystitis. In the hands of most experienced surgeons, perineal urethrostomy is not an extremely difficult procedure but technical errors are not uncommon.
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Maybe you can try mixing in a little bit of unflavored Pedialyte with the water and then feeding it to him through a syringe. I had to do that with my ferret once because he was sick and dehydrated. Hope that helps.
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Today the dr.'s said he probably has stones. We're trying one more round of antibiotics and then x-rays.
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How about tuna water? Make sure you use tuna packed in water and you could dilute it a bit with more water. One of my kitties loves tuna water.
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