New Pups...13 of them - Paw Talk

Paganegyptian · #1 06-29-2009, 02:39 PM

My Princess had her 2nd litter today at 10:30am - noon. THere are 13 pups in the litter and Mommie is doing great. They are healthy and actually larger than the first litter.Pics coming soon.

bokuza · #2 06-29-2009, 11:37 PM

OOHH! Yeah! Pictures when you get a chance! CONGRATS!

GAMZu · #3 06-30-2009, 12:21 PM

How exciting! I'd love to see photos as well.

CrWoodyspets · #4 06-30-2009, 12:42 PM

Can't wait for pictures of the little furballs when you get 20 posts! Congrats!

Paganegyptian · #5 07-02-2009, 08:33 PM

I guess I am not allowed to upload images

THere are still none I uploaded my first day here.

And I cant link them.. so everyone is out of luck on the pics.

Bad News ....
Two died over night last night... and I found one around 6pm today with part of its shoulder skin eaten away... my guess is the pups doing this to each other.. I saved the one thats been chewed on.. and three others with empty bellies, the rest I removed from mommie for a few minutes... I think they were fighting over milk.. I will try to help by "Rotating" the pups every 30 minutes... no more than 6 at a time. Mom does not mind me handling the pups.. she is very trusting. She knows I act in the best interest. I dont like handling any pups, but if I dont, they will kill each other. Mom has not destroyed any of her own pups. I would like the remaining 11 to become healthy young adults.
Looks like I have my work cut out for the next week to week and a half. I dont know about anyone else, but my Princess kisses (licks) me when I ask her if she loves me...

CrWoodyspets · #6 07-02-2009, 10:05 PM

Good Luck on the babies...

bokuza · #7 07-02-2009, 10:23 PM

I hope everything works out!!!
I dont think the pups can hurt each other yet? can they?
Id watch mum some more!

CrWoodyspets · #8 07-02-2009, 11:20 PM

^^agreed^^

Paganegyptian · #9 07-03-2009, 12:26 PM

Thank you for the concern.. I woudln't have believed it, until I removed the babies for a few minutes, and watched them.. one of them started chewing on another pup. around the loose skin at the shoulder. So I separated them. I have to do pup rotation, so everyone gets milk. and it is working very well so far, as this morning 3 of the 11 had no milk in their bellies. Its working out great and mom seems more realxed feeding 4 at time, than 11

bokuza · #10 07-03-2009, 03:12 PM

Oh wow.thats really gross!

GAMZu · #11 07-05-2009, 07:17 PM

Oh, my! How do you know which ones have empty bellies?
I can't believe the pups are hurting each other.

Sorry about that.

CrWoodyspets · #12 07-05-2009, 10:26 PM

When you look at the babies, you can see a milk bubble in their belly and that is how you know if they are still hungry. I would feed the ones that aren't full KMR kitten formula just in case. Updates?

Paganegyptian · #13 07-06-2009, 11:15 AM

yes, I attempted to save 4 of the ones that seemed like they were not doing as well. Update, yesterday, the other 2 that were not doing so well have died.. it appears either Starvation or Suffocation, or both.

BIG UPDATE... My Mixed breed Bella, a very interesting mix of teddy bear, cinnamon and Piebald, has 3 pups on July 5th. No wonder she was very musky!

but The day she was in heat, the only males I allowed her around was Honeys(RIP) pups, all 3 survivors were male pandas and were not yet mature. So, in this, I only have my guesses. Maybe thats why she only had 3. We will see.

CrWoodyspets · #14 07-06-2009, 07:08 PM

I'm sorry for your losses, but happy for your babies!

10 more posts for pics!