This is so sad, I feel that it is all my fault!! - Page 2 - Paw Talk

Skratikans · #16 09-11-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by luvnature


	I dont think anyone is blaming just the mom fully. She does bear part of the blame although most of it goes on the 13 year old. If the mother didnt approve of the hammy coming into her home she could have said something to Taban and im sure she would have taken it back gladly. But mom did allow the girl to keep it so she should have seen to it that it was being taken care of properly. The 13 yr old did lie to Taban and tell her that it was doing well and may have lied to her own mother about its condition as well so as not to get in trouble...but still...any parent would and should check for themselves once in a while to see for themselves how it was doing. Especially since mom said that the girl never cleaned the cage..wouldnt it smell terribly and have to say something to her daughter? Sounds like the daughter doesnt have much of a mother, sounds like she neglects her daughter a bit so maybe the girl has learned to neglect her pets as well. The apple doesnt fall far from the tree, they say. Its just sad all the way around. But it is not Tabans fault in ANY way at all.

RIGHT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOTH THESE PEOPLE ARE TO BLAME- KID FOR BEING IRRESPONDSIBLE..AND GOD FORBID SHE WANTS TO ADOPT..AND MOTHER FOR LETTING THE ANIMAL SUFFER...KNOWING FULL WELL WHAT A HORRIBLE RECKLESS LIAR OF A KID SHE HAS. ITS NOT OK WITH THE WAY EITHER OF THEM HANDLED THE SITUATION.

DorkyChantelle · #17 09-11-2006, 05:04 PM

I just don't understand how a 13 year old could neglect an animal (until it starves to death) AND lie about it at the same time. I'm sure she knew that hamsters need food and water to live, so why wasn't she providing it even sporadically? And why did she lie? I could MAYBE see lying if the hamster died right after she got it and she didn't want to seem like an irresponsible pet owner but to know that she wasn't giving it any care and lying and saying that she was. That goes beyond irresponsibility in my mind.

LuvMeTrue · #18 09-11-2006, 05:48 PM

taban do not balme your self for anothers action,you are unable to see in to the future. I was 6 when i got my first hamster my mum made us keep it in the family room so that way she was able to make sure we were feeding, watering and cleaning the cage all the time. 13 is plenty old enough to be responsible for a pet, especially since here you are leagally able to baby sit infants. The only problem is sometimes one doesn't realize that someone is not responsible enough to take care of a pet until after it is too late. Please do not blame your self in anyway for what happened to the poor hamster. You did everything you could to make sure she knew what she was getting her self in to. you can't sit there and hold her hand and make sure she is doing what she is suppose to with it all the time. Her mother should have stepped in and made sure the poor thing had food and water or at least inform you as to what was going on and given you the chance to step in and bring the hammie home with you.

Skratikans · #19 09-11-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DorkyChantelle


	I just don't understand how a 13 year old could neglect an animal (until it starves to death) AND lie about it at the same time. I'm sure she knew that hamsters need food and water to live, so why wasn't she providing it even sporadically? And why did she lie? I could MAYBE see lying if the hamster died right after she got it and she didn't want to seem like an irresponsible pet owner but to know that she wasn't giving it any care and lying and saying that she was. That goes beyond irresponsibility in my mind.

maybe the kid is satanic.. at that age you know darn well what is wrong and right...there is no excuse for such behavior...im sorry....but this type of stuff REALLY gets to me...REALLY.

Vladina · #20 10-11-2006, 10:44 PM

I agree with everything that's been said and boy would I like to wring that girl's neck right now, sorry but boy does that break my heart. God forbid that monstrous girl ever has another pet! Pardon my anger but I can't help it. How absolutely cruel! Let me know Taban, if you talk to your cousin about this...I would love to hear what she possibly has to say about starving a hamster and letting it die of hunger and thirst. I hope she really understands what she did to that poor thing.

And not your fault in the least!

Vladina · #21 10-11-2006, 10:47 PM

Right on Skratikans! I totally agree. I am livid. Taban, make your cousin read these posts, or at least tell her about them...a 13 year old that does not understand feeding and watering of a living creature? Ask her how she would like to be locked in her room for a month with no water or food. Wonder what she would say. I am so mad I can barely speak. Sorry.

luvnature · #22 10-11-2006, 10:50 PM

it is a sad situation.

This post is from last month so i think she knows that it wasnt her fault and im sure she probably has talked to her cousin by now...or at least i hope so.
Taban let us know how your doing.

trackstar462 · #23 10-17-2006, 10:05 PM

Heyy, 13 years old is a great age to have hammies! I had two hammies when i was 13! I have two now too. I do not know y you feel that way. It is not your fault at all. Please dont blame yourself.

Vladina · #24 10-17-2006, 10:39 PM

Yes Taban, let us know what happened with this 13 year old and what the **** her mother had to say about letting her daughter starve a hamster to death. I would love to know what they both have to say about it! 13 is a fine age for having a pet, sure, but not if you have no clue whatsoever about taking care of another living creature.

Perfect · #25 10-19-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by andreaS15


	I'm not trying to be negative, And I do agree a 13 year old should be able to take care of a small animal, but I don't think we should be blaming Mom here, only b/c Mom didn't buy the hamster. No offence but if someone bought my child (of any age) a pet I'd be a bit ticked off. Only b/c in MY personal opinion it is MY house this animal is living in and I may or may not be ready to take on that responcibility. I really think it's the decision of the parent whether or not a new animal is to be brought into the home, as respocible as the child is, it's still the parents homes & rules, and 90% of the time the parents money to pay for food/litter/supplies and vet care when needed.

I had talked to her mom before I got her the hamster and she said that it would be ok. I would not just buy her one without asking her parents before hand. I understand what ayou are saying and I know how things are, but I would never do something like that without talking to the parents first.

Vladina · #26 10-19-2006, 10:41 PM

Well I was wondering actually, how the mom could let a small animal starve to death and go without water in her own house. Did she not care a whit about the animal or just never went in her daughter's room or what? The girl is the main one to blame but Mom is second in line for letting her daughter neglect a poor animal.

Again Taban, no blame on you at all. I am really sorry that happened but it was not your fault that girl neglected the hamster.

luvnature · #27 10-20-2006, 12:32 AM

yes we all agree this in no way is Tabans fault. Why dont we let this rest now? This is a post from a while back and im sure Taban doesn't want to keep thinking about this unfortunate event.

The Mother and daughter are both to blame and it is unfortunate but there is nothing anyone can do now.
We dont know what was in the mothers head and how she or her daughter could let this happen to a poor little hammie. And we can't ask them. Why keep bringing this up?

Lets just hope that the next time this little girl gets a pet she will be have matured and end up taking care of it and that the mother will keep tabs on her daughter to make sure that she is not neglecting it. All we can do is hope.

Taban did the best she could and did talk to the parents beforehand. After that it was out of her hands. She was trying to help someone experience the joy of having a pet by getting them started. She has a good heart.

She is not to blame we all agree.

Chinchi · #28 10-21-2006, 09:12 PM

And this is why you should never boy other people pets... Even though they are closley related to you.

I only think the kid is to blame here. Not the mom or anybody else. My mom would never let me starve an animal, but on the other hand, she would never let me keep an animal sombody gave to me... When I godt my first chin, I was only 11. But she made me read a book about chinchillas, and do all sorts of recherch.

If anybody should give a teenager animals, it should be the parents, they must be the ones who knows how responcerble the kids are.

But it's the kids fault if you ask me...!

luvnature · #29 10-21-2006, 11:37 PM

Taban had the mothers permission...so the mom is also at fault to have not watched her kid and contact Taban when her daughter wasnt takin care of the hammie.....Im sure if she had contacted Taban she would have taken the hammie in.
Taban did nothing wrong...she had permission.

sara8 · #30 10-21-2006, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by luvnature


	I dont think anyone is blaming just the mom fully. She does bear part of the blame although most of it goes on the 13 year old. If the mother didnt approve of the hammy coming into her home she could have said something to Taban and im sure she would have taken it back gladly. But mom did allow the girl to keep it so she should have seen to it that it was being taken care of properly. The 13 yr old did lie to Taban and tell her that it was doing well and may have lied to her own mother about its condition as well so as not to get in trouble...but still...any parent would and should check for themselves once in a while to see for themselves how it was doing. Especially since mom said that the girl never cleaned the cage..wouldnt it smell terribly and have to say something to her daughter? Sounds like the daughter doesnt have much of a mother, sounds like she neglects her daughter a bit so maybe the girl has learned to neglect her pets as well. The apple doesnt fall far from the tree, they say. Its just sad all the way around. But it is not Tabans fault in ANY way at all.

yeah that's what i was going to say, the mom may not have bought it but when she allowed it in her house she was taking partial responsibility. two of my sons have guinea pigs in their rooms and my husband and i check daily to make sure they are being taken care of and yes sometimes doing some of the work ourselves which is to be expected cause they are kids. my daughter had birds but didn't take proper care of them so we took them away from her and they are our birds now. if it ever gets that bad with the boys we will have guinea pigs too.