Baby mice pics

Padfoot · #1 05-12-2006, 07:52 PM

I had 3 litters born on May 3. Here they are:
1. Mom is Ketamina (champagne), dad is Monterrey (lilac). Total of 10 babies, plus 2 that she's fostering.

(fosters are the black and the chocolate)

2. Mom is Spice (cinnamon), dad is Monterrey (lilac). Total of 8 babies. AMAZING litter, I think I'll be pairing these 2 again in the future. And I can't wait for these babies to open their eyes to see what they look like (cross your fingers that some of the lighter ones have black eyes)

I LOVE the darker one on this pic... I soooooo hope he/she has black eyes!!!

3. Mom is Demi, dad is Bleu. Total of 21 babies!!! I put 2 of them with Ketamina (the 2 fosters I mentioned there) 4 of them died, and there are 15 left. They are sooo cute!!!!

That fawn one has a lot of color! 8)

Well, I hope you enjoyed the pics! 8)

Nara · #2 05-12-2006, 09:08 PM

They're all so adorable! I hope everything continues to go well with them!

Nara · #3 05-12-2006, 09:08 PM

Just curious, is there any health related reason you want them to have black eyes, or is it just because they look better?

Padfoot · #4 05-12-2006, 09:28 PM

Not health reason really... black eyes see better than red eyes, but that's not the reason... One of the main purposes of breeding is producing healthy mice, friendly mice that have rare colors in PR. If those guys have black eyes, it would be an amazing coloring I've never seen here (and some new gene to play with), if they have ruby eyes, it's a big possibility that they are just lilac with a slightly different shade, maybe due to some of the other genes... not much to play with...

Nara · #5 05-13-2006, 02:13 PM

Oh, that makes sense. Thanks for explaining it to me. Best of luck getting black eyes then.

Vanilla_Rat · #6 05-13-2006, 08:43 PM

Some very gorgeous mice have there! I always love seeing the pics of your mice, they are beautiful!

Fane81 · #7 05-14-2006, 04:28 PM

they are so precious! i cant imagine having all those adorable little babies to look at and watch grow up! hehe

i always find it amazing how these little animals will foster other ones' babies! thats so wonderful!

dragonmaster · #8 05-15-2006, 09:00 AM

I always love looking at your meeces. They are so very cute, and so many! I'm sorry to hear that you lost some of them.

Fubie · #9 05-15-2006, 08:18 PM

Heey, can I ask some advice for mice?
See, my mice, they hate me, so so much 8D Ok, they don't hate me, but they're somewhat fearfulof me, I haven't been bitten yet, but I don't really handle them that much anymore. Anyway, any advice on how to make them a bit more accepting toward humans?

Adorable baby meece =B

Padfoot · #10 05-15-2006, 09:56 PM

Patience, handle a lot, and give lots of treats. Other thing I've noticed, they seem to learn to be friendly from friendly mice. My first mice were very wild. They did even bit me. But then I bought a couple of females that were very tame and put them together and after a couple of months, they were all very tame. Now, when I get a new wild one, I put them with the extra tame ones and they learn soon enough that I mean no harm. 8)

Padfoot · #11 05-17-2006, 01:22 AM

LOOKIE!!!!

He/She has black eyes!!! Whoo!!

I'm so excited!

monkau · #12 05-17-2006, 02:33 AM

a tip - you can tell what colour the eyes will be from birth- the ones with black eyes will have darker patches under the lids the other, have pink eyes, you cant see anything.

im just trying to figure out your babies LOL, im actually aiming towards lilacs myself, slowly but surely heh.

do you call the colours the same as me?
ketamina should be a/a b/b C/* D/* p/p to be genetically champagne, and the male should be a/a b/b C/* d/d P/* to be lilac.

so that should give you babies that are
a/a b/b C/* and either D/d or d/d, depending if katamina carries blue dilution too... and P/p or p/p babies, again depending if the male carries pink eye dilution. that makes a possibility of getting chocolate and champagne babies if katamina isnt carrying blue dilution and the father carries pink dilution...

and possibly more lilacs if katamina carries blue dilution. so id say, your katamina carries blue as well, from the babies there in the top picture

did you get any pink eye lilacs? then the lilac carries pink eye.

hrm.

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i dont understand how cinnamon and lilac can have those babies in your second picture. *thinks HARD*

cinnamon mum should be A/a b/b C/* D/* P/* (i think shes D/d since theres a little blue bub there, and she might also be P/p)
lilac dad a/a b/b C/* d/d P/* (i think he might be P/p)

ok, so you should have among those babies:

some are A/a, others a/a
all are b/b
since theres a blue mum is D/d, so youve got some D/d and d/ds, and theres probably P/P, P/p and p/p babies too!

now mix and match, to make the baby you want to know about that has the black eyes-

and looks like it could be a lilac agouti to me

PS you should be able to sex them by now. you can do it even before they open their eyes.

Padfoot · #13 05-17-2006, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by monkau


	a tip - you can tell what colour the eyes will be from birth- the ones with black eyes will have darker patches under the lids the other, have pink eyes, you cant see anything.

Yup, I know that... Just, when they are so many I loose the sence of which is which when they get fur... LOL

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	do you call the colours the same as me? ketamina should be a/a b/b C/* D/* p/p to be genetically champagne, and the male should be a/a b/b C/* d/d P/* to be lilac.

Yup, Ketamina is champagne (a/a b/b C/* D/* E/* p/p) However I use the american term of Lilac, which is basically the black with ruby eyes, that would be a/a B/* C/* D/* E/* p/p. This is my first litter from Ketamina, but from the other litters I've had with Monterrey, I know he carried the chocolate gene, the albino gene, the blue gene and the spotting gene... so genetically he would be a/a B/b C/c D/d E/* p/p S/s Doesn't he has a nice set of genes?

I'm certain that Ketamina's litter consists of albinos, lilacs, and champagnes... Remember that the little black and chocolate are not hers, but Demi's. I purposedly put in 2 black eyed in with the litter of all ruby eyed so I could tell them apart. Also the reason why I put them with Ketamina and not with Spice even though Spice had a smaller litter... cause I wanted to know who's babies were each, and Spice had black eyed and ruby eyed babies in her litter. Nothing to figure out there.

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	i dont understand how cinnamon and lilac can have those babies in your second picture. thinks HARD cinnamon mum should be A/a b/b C/* D/* P/* (i think shes D/d since theres a little blue bub there, and she might also be P/p) lilac dad a/a b/b C/* d/d P/* (i think he might be P/p) Again, Monterrey is a/a B/b C/c D/d E/* p/p S/s. This is my first litter with Spice. She was given to me by my friend cause he had a litter with her which consisted in all cinnamons, and he wasn't interested in any agouti colors. When he sees the beautiful baby she had with Monterrey, he'll be very very very envious... lol. This is the most intriguing litter for me. She had 2 blacks, 1 lilac (ruby eyed), one blue, one agouti, one champagne and 2 cream colored... the most grey one is ruby eyed and the most cream one is black eyed (my favorite baby). I was told that the black eyed one was a coffee... but I can't seem to find the base genetics for coffees.. so I don't know. This would make Spice A/a b/b C/* D/d E/* P/p No spotted babies here so she probably doesn't carry the spotting gene.

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	PS you should be able to sex them by now. you can do it even before they open their eyes

Yup, I took a look at the black eyed baby and it's male. I also use the nipple method... but again, with so many babies I forget which is which... so I take a look to see more or less what is what, but definetively sex them when I wean them.

monkau · #14 05-18-2006, 12:12 AM

genetics for coffee is a/a c^e/c^e

ahh i see, you call dove lilac

hehe funny, they should make it the same for everywhere!!
that buggers my whole thing i wrote then

Padfoot · #15 05-18-2006, 10:57 PM

Hmmm... I found a website that points coffee genetics as Ay/A d/d p/p So I thought "not coffee cause I don't have the yellow gene here as (far as I know) But... there's an error in the code cause it basically says that coffee has red eyes, and it doesn't....still I was thinking it was maybe beige... (http://www.thefunmouse.com/info/varieties.cfm)

I suscribed to the forum you gave me... but I have a stupid computer virus that is making my internet super crappy, and just doesn't wants to load that page (loads some pages some don't...) I know what file is causing the problem (or I think I know... heh) but I haven't been able to get rid of the stupid thing. As soon as I can get rid of this I'll be going around looking and introduce myself... heh.

the cutest!