I feel horrible... one of my buns passed away

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Thanks...
Luckily my daughter doesn't feel guilty anymore. I convinced her that it wasn't the heat that killed Pip cuz I really don't think it was. It had to be something else. She still feels sad about the loss though but at least she isn't blaming herself.

Dude has 5 more weeks to go on his meds before we can even think about getting him another friend. I'm sure he would enjoy the company, I just worry about him not bonding with another bunny. With his head tilt getting worse and him being so unstable, I don't want any other buns picking fights with him if the bonding isn't successful. That scares me. But we will see.

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I called the vet this morning because Dude's head tilt is looking worse and worse. She decided to put him back on the baytril. I went to pick it up today... man that's some expensive stuff! $30 for only one week! I'm supposed to call back when he is done with it and let them know if he is responding to it. At that point she may want to see him again. I'll keep you updated...

[kathydip]

What kind of Baytril is he on? What is his dose? I am spending 12 or 14 dollars for about a months worth. Tabby's is white and she is on .4 cc's of it. Or to the 4 on the little syringe. Tabby only weighs about 3 pounds so that may give you a better idea of the amount she is taking versus the amount Dude is on.
I could never afford for her to be on it for $30 per week! She is on it constantly

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The label just says Baytril INJ. 2.27% 20 ML. By the INJ.... I'm assuming it is the injectible kind.... I think that is what she had said the first time we went in. And it's pink cuz they added cherry syrup to it. He gets .75ML 2x/day and his weight is 3.4lb. But yeah, at $30/week... I don't know if I can afford that either!

[kathydip]

Tabby was on the pink stuff with the first supposed rabbit savvy vet. I will look up how much it had cost when I go home today. Maybe the pink kind is more expensive then the white? I would speak to your vet about this. I purchase most of Tabby's meds from her vet but I get her bene bac from Drs Foster and Smith. It's a lot cheaper even with the shipping. I told the vet this and he was very understanding. BTW I did inquire with Drs Foster and Smith about baytril being mixed up for her and it seemed ridiculously expensive. I probably should check again b/c I know more about her meds now then I did before. Everyone needs to save money where they can and yet not feel like they are skimping on thier babies needs. Heck I am trying to remember that Tabby may need to get her teeth done again and that was $200.00!

In response to how contorted Dude looks sometimes. I understand. And it's so hard at first. Now though I don't notice. It's funny when people come over that are not used to her. They seem to cringe when they look at her. I just smile b/c that is just my Tabby.

Oh I do think that giving her plenty of "hop time" helps. I get her out of her enclosure and let her hop in a slightly larger area. I also bring her outside sometimes. She tends to keep to the patio b/c the grass is too uneven for her. I had her out last night after her tush bath and she really seemed to enjoy it. I think that stimulates her and gets her moving more than she would inside. I do worry she is also arthritic. She never really hops. She walks. I am glad she is also on an anti-inflamatory/pain medication. She seems stiff but not in pain and that is all that matters to me.

[betts]

when the Lord needs another angel from earth
he finds the one to best look after us here
your daughter has an angel to look after her
that bunny will be with her forever

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Thank you... that was a very nice sentiment.

[kathydip]

How's Dude? I am always thinking of him.

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There isn't much change in Dude. I don't know if the baytril is working... I don't think his head is straightening out any. But it is so hard to tell. I think he may have about 3-4 doses left and then I need to update the doctor.

Since we lost Pip, he stays in his little house most of the time. Or he'll lay half way in it and half way out of it.

When I picked him up last nite to give him his meds, he had this glop of poop stuck on his butt. Yuck. I tried to pull it off but it had hardened. So I had to carefuly cut it off. I know you said you have that problem with your bun. Is it because of the condition? With the head tilt, do they have difficulty eating it? What is it called? Cecotropes?

One thing is for sure... I'm glad I brought him back inside. It's been soooo hot lately.

[kathydip]

Yes, I do think she has trouble eating those Cecotropes or night feces. I don't think her head tilt allows her to get into the proper position.
If I find them on the ground I often will pick them up with a tissue and hold them so she can est them. Really gross but I am not sure what else to do. I know they need them.

B/c of her condition I have to give her tush baths sometimes. I use warm water and bunny shampoo and make sure she is dry after. I hate doing it but as you know already that stuff really sticks and it's hard to cut the hair off in such a delicate area. When it is in warm water it comes off much easier. Oh and I bring her outside to dry her. It's so hot here that I think it helps get her dry more quickly.

I know bunnies are not supposed to get baths and that is why I only do her tushy. I also had asked the vet tech about it and she agreed that baths are not good for them but sometimes they are necessary.

What we do for our "kids".

Dude may have always have a head tilt. I hope that the vet gives her blessing soon for Dude to possibly get a friend. It sounds like he could use a little company. Do you have any friends with bunnies that you could try out with? Just to see if he seems to perk up? Can you even do that with bunnies?
I really am glad that Tabby has the kitties to keep her company. And she just lights up when she sees me. Of course that makes me melt. I know you must just want him to be happy. Poor little Dude! Please give him a kiss from Tabby and me.

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to hear about your loss. I hope Dude cheers up soon. My Bun was on Baytril a couple weeks ago when they thought it was Pnemonia, but it was brown and thick. Curious about this white and pink stuff you guys are talking about. Hhmm.

[kathydip]

Brown and thick. Sounds like the stuff Tabby started on. It was made from the pills they used for dogs and was beef or chicken flavored. Most bunnies don't like it. Silly Tabby goes along with everything though. She had that b/c the vet was not a bunny vet and that was all they had.
The stuff she is on now she LOVES! It smells pretty yummy so I can understand why.

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Same here. I was given beef flavored pills for Dude that I had to crush up and give with water which made it thick and brown. Total nightmare... he wouldn't take it. It would just dribble down his chin.

The new vet had the better stuff... and she adds cherry flavored syrup to make it appetizing. Now it's so much easier to administer.