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Old 07-09-2006, 01:57 AM
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I feel horrible... one of my buns passed away


Dude's girlfriend died today. And I can't sleep. I am so sad and can't stop crying.

I put a frozen 2 liter out for them at noon when it was starting to warm up. At 4pm, as I was heading out the door, I asked my daughter to put a new one out there cuz I was running late for work. I got home at 10:45pm and got their albendazole doses ready. It's easy to give Pip hers... so I went out to the hutch to give her her dose and I found her huddled against the water bottle. She wasn't moving. I ran inside to tell my husband. My daughter came in to say goodnite and she wanted to know why I was crying. I told her and she burst into tears. Pip was technically her bun. She is feeling incredible guilt. She says she killed her bunny and can't forgive herself. She forgot to put the next water bottle out for them. She was in the middle of making me a birthday present when I asked her... and it ended up slipping her mind.

So she feels guilty... and so do I. I shouldv'e just taken the bottle out myself.... then this never would have happened. I feel so horrible. I feel horrible that my daughter is beating herself up over it. I feel horrible for what happened to Pip. And I feel horrible for Dude. Pip was his cage mate / girlfriend since he was just a baby. They would always cuddle... she would clean his ears for him. And now he is all alone. I'm so sad for him. I can't quit crying.

What I can't stop wondering is when she died. She wasn't super hard. Her back was but when I picked her up... her underside still felt soft. Did it just happen? Were we just minutes too late?

I'm curious if any of you have experience with what happens to the other bun when its mate dies. Will Dude be ok or will he die soon from a broken heart? He's still being treated for his tilted head and his head isn't seeming to straighten out. With the loss he is going thru, do you think he will just get worse now? I'm sure he is lonely and sad right now.

Thanks for listening. At one in the morning, there is no one for me to talk to about this. I have to be back to work at 6am.... I wish I could sleep. Man, I'm sad.
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Old 07-09-2006, 01:59 AM
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I am so sorry for your loss!
I'm sure with enough love and attention Dude will be just fine.
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Old 07-09-2006, 02:04 AM
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Thank you... I hope he will.

I don't know how I'm gonne keep my composure at work tomorrow... with how much I've been crying, my eyes are bound to be blood shot and swollen.

Oh Pip... I am so sorry....
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Old 07-09-2006, 05:40 AM
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Old 07-09-2006, 07:54 PM
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I am so sorry for your loss! I would just try to give Dude extra love and attention. That will probably make all of you feel better.

Why would you think that not putting out the water bottle did that much harm? I cannot imagine that it would. It could have been an awful coinsidence (sp?). It could have been just her time.
I hope you got through work okay. Hopefully your co-workers were understanding.
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Old 07-09-2006, 08:14 PM
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i'm so sorry for you loss you def. brought tears to my eyes i am praying for you and your family's loss and for dude's broken heart... perhaps in a little time you could get him a new bunny to be cage mates with so he doesn't feel entirely alone and jaded.
sry again,
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:12 AM
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Why would you think that not putting out the water bottle did that much harm? I cannot imagine that it would. It could have been an awful coinsidence (sp?). It could have been just her time.


You know what? I'm starting to wonder the same thing now. I'm now wondering if she had some sort of side effect from the albendazole. Thinking now... there was not much poop in the litterbox, like their usually is. Maybe she did die from another cause. I'm calling the vet first thing tomorrow to ask about this. My daughter is still blaming herself for Pip's death. I want to be able to assure her that it was not her fault and have her actually believe me.
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:37 AM
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perhaps in a little time you could get him a new bunny to be cage mates with
sry again,


I've been thinking about that. I think I will ask the vet about that tomorrow. With his e. cuniculi, I would hate to bring another bun in and subject her to the parasite that he is fighting right now. He does need something to cuddle with though... I can tell that he misses his best friend. I wonder if he would cuddle with a stuffed animal? Or would he just chew it to pieces?
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He does need something to cuddle with though... I can tell that he misses his best friend. I wonder if he would cuddle with a stuffed animal? Or would he just chew it to pieces?


perhaps it'd be worth it just to try and see if he does or does not eat the stuffed animal for the sake of him and his heart ...stuffed animals are cheap
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Old 07-10-2006, 08:15 PM
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I gave Tabatha a stuffed bunny. I felt badly for her b/c I was not sure if she was contageous or not. Besides I really cannot handle another bunny right now.
Anyway after Easter my mom and I found a cute little Easter bunny on sale. His name is Quinten. She seems to like him. I will take him and rub his face against hers like he is grooming her. She really likes that.
Just a note - make sure it looks like a real bunny. The first stuffed bunny I gave her was not really shaped like a bunny and she was not interested at all.

Let us know how Dude is doing as well as your daughter.
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Old 07-11-2006, 02:00 AM
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I talked to the vet today. She was really sorry to here about Pip. I asked if Pip might have had a reaction to the albendazole and she didn't think so. She prescribes that drug over others cuz it is generally the safest.

Earlier in the day (before she called), I did some research on heatstroke... wondering if that is what did it. I read a lot that said that rabbits experiencing heatstroke will stretch out and put their head up. And then I remembered finding a rabbit I had when I was little in that same position when it had died. Pip was not stretched out when I found her. She was huddled over with her head down. I also told the vet how my daughter had forgotten to put the water bottle out and how we had wondered if she had overheated. The vet said that she could have... it was hot out... but that I was right... she would more likely have been stretched out when I found her. Plus the timing didn't make sense since her body was still so supple at 11pm. Since her body was still in a squishy-ish state, it didn't make much sense that heat was the cause.

She asked if she had been eating and drinking normally. I thought she had but then again... there wasn't much poop in the litter box. Hearing that, the vet thinks it might have been some sort of obstruction... or gas (I think she said.) I'm thinking hairball. She was constantly grooming dude and he is a big shedder. I would try to get the loose hair off of him but I could never get it all. I would give them fresh pineapple once a month but more times than not, they wouldn't touch it. It would just dry up.

So as far as my daughter goes... she doesn't feel so much guilt anymore. She still misses Pip terribly but at least her soul is at ease now... not blaming herself for Pip's death.

As far as Dude goes... I can tell that he is really depressed. Makes me want to cry all over again. The first thing we did was bring him back inside. Both were inside for the winter cuz I hated dealing with the frozen water. I put them back out in the spring when the weather stopped freezing. But now... we aren't taking any chances with the heat. I don't want any of us forgetting to put out any water bottles again. So he is inside and comfy. My daughter gave him one of her stuffed bunnies... he laid by it all day long.

As for getting Dude to eat pineapple... I think I have a great idea. The tiny siringes that I use to give him his medicine... what if I use the syringe to suck up a bunch of fresh pineapple juice and then squirt it right in his mouth like I do with the meds??? Do you think that would work? Would it be ok to do?

I did ask the vet about getting him another cagemate someday. She said that I would need to wait til he is done with the meds... cuz right now he is still contagious. I'm not sure if I will or not. I read about everyone's bunny bonding experiences on this board... and it sounds like a difficult and almost impossible process for some. But I don't know... he is so sad and lonely.

I am still so sad about Pip. I miss her... I can't believe she is gone.
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Oh I am so glad your daughter is no longer blaming herself. Sometimes these things just happen. My friend lost a bun not that long ago and nothing seemed to be wrong with her. It's so hard b/c they cannot tell us that this hurts or that hurts. And even watching closely you may not notice anything. Especially with 2 bunnies. I know I find blood in the cats litter box from time to time. I still am not positive which one it is. This has been going on for 5 years now. I am glad to hear that Dude is back inside. i am sure the extra time with you guys will cheer him up. It is nice that he has a buddy to lay with even if it is stuffed. I think once he is better you may want to try another bunny. You already know that Dude is accepting of other bunnies. Maybe you can contact a rescue in your area for a bunny that may be a needing a mate herself. You have time to decide that though.
Give Dude a hug from me and Tabatha!
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Old 07-13-2006, 09:14 PM
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How is dude feeling?
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He still seems to be sad. He nuzzles up against that stuffed bunny in there... hasn't tried chewing it up, so that is good. His head seems to be tilting more, yesterday it looked totally horizontal.

I tried bringing him out into the front yard so he could romp around. But in this condition there isn't much romping anymore. It saddens me that those bursts of excitement don't happen anymore, where he twitters around the yard doing leaps and twists. Now he's just kinda all over the place. His back legs aren't as strong as they once were, seeming to give out on him if he goes too fast or turns too sharp.

I wish there was more I could do for him. What a bad time for Pip to leave. I feel so bad for him.
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Omg! I am so sorry...tell your daughter that it is not her fault and that she just made a silly little mistake...and mabe you can get her another bunny. You dont have to...but just make her fell better do something to distract her and yourself...you wont feel as bad.

One again...I am sorry for your loss...feel better.
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