Urgent Help ASAP - Paw Talk

PCFW · #1 02-23-2006, 07:41 PM

Ok Here's the problem

First this is my Dad's friend's bird

She's a cockatoo 10 + years

Well here's what happened she laid her first egg and she got egg boung. So they tried to reach me, but we weren't home. So they took her to the vet they removed egg and she had 2 stiches.

Everything seemed fine untill today or yesterday when she has same symptoms again. Not eating and lethargic.

I gave them some info on how to slide the egg out by creasing the rectal area inside and out with oil , and the trick of putting the bird over a steaming pot of boiling water. I also told them to hand feed her.

Which he bought some formula at petsmart today.

Well I also told him if she doesn't pass the egg soon * probably is laying 2nd egg)to take her to the vet so they can remove it and get her on an iv drip. Also, told him they actually spay birds now. This would be the ideal thing to do so she wouldn't get egg bound again.

She's a cockatoo. i think and umbrella.

Any other advice

Mygala · #2 02-23-2006, 08:45 PM

Don't wait to see if she is laying another egg. She could be suffereing complications from the first one. Any bird not eating AND lethargic should be gotten to the vet IMMEDIATELY! Especially if there is already a recent history of a veterinary intervention.

...this could be a systemic infection, a blockage of the intestines, a ton of things fit that description. ....and many of them are life-threating emergencies.

I wouldn't risk it. I'd go NOW....

bob

***Jade*** · #3 02-23-2006, 09:44 PM

kare_bear · #4 02-24-2006, 04:37 PM

How is she doing?
Poor girl, egg-binding can be so dangerous.

thebigwoodgie · #5 02-25-2006, 07:10 PM

Hi,
I agree, could be complications from passing the first egg. You may want to discuss surgery or medications that are available if the bird becomes a chronic egg layer with egg binding complications.
Bill

DVM12 · #6 02-26-2006, 02:12 PM

The words of tumb are:

YOUR BIRD WONT SHOW SIGNS THAT THEY ARE ILL UNTILL ITS ALMOST TO LATE. BECAUSE IN THE WILD ONLY THE STRONG SURVIVE.

SHES MOST LIKLY SUFFERING COMPLICATIONS FROM THE 1ST EGG, SHE NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN TO SEE AN AVIAN SPECIALIST.

NEVER BECOME LITTLE MS/MR VET IF YOU DONT HAVE THE UPMOST EXEPRIENCE IN THE SITUATION- IF YOUR NOT A VET.

ITS NOT SAFE AND YOU COULD ACTUALLY END UP HURTING THE BIRD EVEN IF YOU ARE SURE YOU "KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING".

It is always best to take your bird to a specialist at the first sign of illness. Dont attmept things at home i see way to many birds and other animals dieing this way.!

thebigwoodgie · #7 02-27-2006, 08:37 PM

Especially dont do that steam and boiling water thing . that is a ridiculous, moronic , old wives tail and can be extremely hazardous to the bird. Soprry to be so blunt but I just noticed that part of the post. You will cause an extreme 2nd degree burn of the birds vent that will surely ultimately kill her.

That is without question, the nuttiest thing I ever heard. Again sory for being blunt, but folks know that I don't pull any punches when I see something that crazy.

I dont know where that idea came from but forget it quick before the bird gets hurt.

Bill

PCFW · #8 02-27-2006, 08:42 PM

That was on a breeders site. Well they day after I posted this topic he took her to the vet. He had to get her put to sleep because either the vet didn't soe the area where they cut to take the egg out or it expanded because she had to lay another one. The vet could close it but would have to close the anal hole also . Which the bird would die from in excrutiating pain within a couple of days. He doesn't even want the cage. Which I am probably going to buy . It's a large flight cage so it would be good for my doves.

thebigwoodgie · #9 02-27-2006, 10:53 PM

I am so sorry to hear that. This is a case where an avian vet could have made a big difference. I suspect a vet was used that was clueless with respect to birds. The bird could easily have been saved. The egg binding was under control and an experienced vet would have had no troubles with that bird.

Again, a guess, but this is the time to point out that if you have birds, you must have an experienced avian vet. The "dog and cat" vet is not enough.

I am so sorry about this outcome for this bird.

Foer folks thinking about living with larger birds, this is one reason you shouldn't!

Again, a guess, but here is the likely scenario and I've heard it a hundred times. The cost of saving the bird was more than the person wanted to pay. What's the cheapest alternative, you might ask? Put the bird down.

I may be way off base, but I doubt it.

Bill

macawman · #10 02-28-2006, 10:43 AM

I am saddened to read this thread. Egg binding is a serious but easily managable problem when dealt with by a knowledgable owner and a real avian vet. There was no need for this bird to die.

Dave

PCFW · #11 02-28-2006, 12:01 PM

that's why i stuck w/ conures instead of cockatoos.