Another Rescue!!! - Paw Talk

DirtySouthChins · #1 02-15-2004, 01:48 AM

I wanted to share this with you all to give you an idea as to some of the conditions we find our rescues. Last Wednesday night about 9pm we found a Mom (Terrier Mix) and 3 pups at a dump site

The little old lady that lived across from the dump site, called the base vet about 2 weeks ago claiming that a momma dog gave birth to 6 pups in her drive way, well after calling her about info on the pups we are told that they were across the way at the dump site, and that she had been feeding them, I give her props for feeding them, but OMG the night we found them it dropped to about 22 degrees, the mom has a severe case of mange (spelling) and is about 5-6 years old. We instantly picked them up and brought them home, now unfortunately the next day we took mom out to Lega Pro Animale for steralization, and she will be put back tonight (after having 3 days to recover) where we found here, there is no way we can keep her and try to find her a home, it is sad I know, and I am sure some of you won't understand why we are doing that, but unfortunately around here sometimes that is what you have to do, but at least she won't be able to get pregnant again, she will now become a "Parco" dog and the little old lady across the way said she would continue to feed her so she won't starve, but yes it is sad that she won't have a permanent home either

We only found 3 of the 6 pups that we were told were there, so hopefully somebody else picked the other 3 up, we even went back to the site 3x's and still no other puppies, as it is unusual to hear of pups wondering away from the mother (especially around here). We estimated the pups to be about 10 weeks, and yesterday a couple came over and took the black male and the brown female home YAY!!

We have been deworming the pups with a special dewormer since Thursday, and the couple took the last dose with them for the other 2, so we do get right to deworming them which is a start. I just wanted to share this story and the pics with you to just show what we do here

... I didn't see a place to post this in the rescue section, so I hope posting this thread here in the dogs section is okay..... The picture of mom and the pups at the dumpsite is dark and I apologize for that, but I was trying to get a picture before disturbing them. OH before I forget that same night running down the street was a pure breed "American Staffordshire Terrier" (will try to get pics of him today when we pick him up from the vet) he wasn't neutered, ears are docked and he is super friendly, hubby bent down and this dog pounced him and started licking his face like crazy, he spent wednesday night in the upstairs bathroom and he too went to Lega Pro Animale, however word got out about him through Security (where darren works) and when we pick him up today as well he may actual have a home

He is only about a year old, and wasn't marked, no tags, no microchip, and fully understand english commands, hubby told him to heal and he came right to him and sat next to him, NOW I don't understands how somebody can dump a dog like him, for that matter any dogs

... Okay off my

soapbox now .....

Mom and the pups at the dump site.

The 3 puppies after a bath, basking in the sunlight. We still have the black/white male.

Formula86 · #2 02-15-2004, 01:55 AM

omg. that's so cool that you helped them. how come you have to put the mom dog back though?

DirtySouthChins · #3 02-15-2004, 03:52 AM

Around here (Naples, Italy) it is sometimes hard enough to find homes for younger dogs to puppies, so you can only imagine how hard it is to find homes for older dogs..... We work with "Lega Pro Animale" and run a "Spay a Stray" program, alot of the times our organization "Naples Friends of Animals" will pick strays up (older dogs) and take them in for steralization and place them back where we found them, the majority of these dogs are either parco dogs (which mean americans, british, germans, and italians) will feed them but won't house them, and most are unsteralized this producing more puppies. However some are just your average Naples street dog and that is all they know and have been living on the streets for years, so we try our best to place as many as we can, but as I mentioned the older one's have a hard time so we at least get them steralized to help the population decrease from unwanted puppies. I know it sounds cruel, but it is hard to understand what we do if your not living here. So mom is going back where we found her and she is going to be a "parco dog" and will be fed and unfortunately at this time that is all that can be done for her, we are a non-profit organization and the funding for the steralization comes from fund raising (although those who pick the dogs up pay 1/2 out of their pocket) as well as pay for the care of the ones we take in, so it can get costly as well, but we do what we can and that is all we can do at this time.
I wanted to add something.... another reason why we usually place the older one's back, for example: this guy has 2 dogs, found this other dog, and brought him into his home, now he is PCSing back to the states on the 27th and it was brought to our attention yesterday that this guy has no intention of taking the dog he picked up back with him, so if he can't find him a home he is just going to dump him, now that is more cruel than if he would have placed him back in the first place... Not to mention this guy hasn't even placed an ad in the paper, or even posted on any of the boards around the bases

this poor dog is now going to be worse off than before.

Formula86 · #4 02-15-2004, 04:19 AM

oh ok. thanks for explaining. i didn't know where you were living right now.

DirtySouthChins · #5 02-15-2004, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by formula86


	oh ok. thanks for explaining. i didn't know where you were living right now.

Not a problem.... I thought pretty much everyone knew we were in Italy, but it's all good

Sorry for being so long winded but it is just something that I care so much about

capnsweets · #6 02-15-2004, 08:46 AM

Navywife,

You do not have to defend to me what you are doing. You are dong everythin YOU can to help. It is very sad that some dogs have to be released back to where they were, but you cannot keep every dog you try and help. If you COULD I know you would. I think you are an angel for doing everything you can.

*fstybrat* · #7 02-15-2004, 09:20 AM

Kim, I 100% agree with Capn!

Many people would have just passed em by leaving them to their own doom... but you having a heart of gold went out of your way to have her sterilized to prevent further unwanted homeless pups, & are trying to find a home for the remaing pup whom is not quite old enough to survive on it's own... All things considered, I think you are a WONDERFUL person and certainly deserve a pat on the hug (or a hug)

Deja · #8 02-15-2004, 10:22 AM

Oh my gosh Kim, what you are doing is truely amazing. You really go above and beyond what most people would do to help all those animals.
It must have been maddening to hear that the guy returning to the states is most likely going to have to "dump" the dog he rescued. I hope he can find it a home in time.
The more stories you tell the clearer it becomes - Naples (among many cities all over the world) really has a huge stray and feral dog and cat population. It's impossible to save and find them all homes. The spay/neuter program at least decreases the population growth. It's just amazing what you do!
I agree with Kay, you do deserve a big hug

It must really get to you sometimes!
The picture of the dumpsite where you found the mom and pups ... wow - they would have gone totally invisable to most people. At least the lady across the street is going to continue to feed the strays.
Those pups are adorable, btw!

DirtySouthChins · #9 02-15-2004, 10:36 AM

Aweeee tyvm

to all 3 of you

.... We took the mom back today and it made my heart feel good to see her so happy, she was at "home" and instantly began to wonder while wagging her tail, it is obvious she had been there for several years...... The male that we found with her is in a trial home right now, he was a purebreed "pit" and the guy who took him in has an 8 month old rottie, and he understands it is going to take time for them to get used to eachother if they ever do

if not, we will put him back unless someone has the heart to take him in, I did manage to take a picture of him, so as soon as I upload it I will post it

I was quick... so here is a picture of the "Pit"

Deja · #10 02-15-2004, 11:10 AM

Oh wow look at him! He's a good looking boy! Kim, do people pay a lot for pure breed pups over there? It sure sounds like you get a lot of pure bred strays!
I'm not saying that people should discard *any* animal - I hope no one took that question the wrong way.

I'll keep my fingers crossed too that he gets along well with the Rottie in his new home. He looks like a sweet natured boy. I'm sure he's happy to have a real home again!

DirtySouthChins · #11 02-15-2004, 11:58 AM

Purebreeds can be costly over here depending on the breed, however alot of the Italians (not all so please don't take it wrong) have what we americans call "designer dogs" for instance if the year 2003 was the year the "German Shepherd" was in, then the Italians would do what they could to get one, in 2004 if it is the year for "Yorkies" then they would simply dump the shepherd and buy a yorkie, it tends to be a trend fashion around here. Like I mentioned not all are that way, but that is the best way to explain the so many purebreed strays around here. I used the 2 examples above because we have seen alot of Italians with Yorkies and have seen alot of German Shepherd strays or lying dead on the side of the roads

Deja · #12 02-15-2004, 02:44 PM

Oh man

I know that breed popularity tends to cycle in the US, and there are a fair number of pure bred dogs that do end up in shelters or with breed rescue organizations for that reason. People clammor to get the "dog of the moment" without doing the proper research only to find out that the oh so highly desired breed didn't fit their lifestyle, living arrangements or they couldn't take the time to invest in training - but (unless I am totally naive and blind to the facts) it doesn't seem as if we just "dump" and discard our dogs like yesterday's newspaper onto the streets in the numbers that you see over there. Maybe our animal cruelty laws are stricter? Maybe culturally we regard our pets differently? Maybe as a society we educate our children and teach them to value and protect animals? Maybe our animals are incorporated into our families on a different emotional level? I don't know - I'm sure at times you feel as if your hands are tied behind your back and it must be very frustrating.
I really admire what you do. You are an amazing person and your dedication and compassion is such an inspiration.

Sorry for going off on a tangent and rambling - it's just beyond me how anyone, anywhere could treat their pets so randomly and abandon them on a roadside. Thank goodness for people like you who bring attention to the reality and do something about it.

puppylove103 · #13 02-15-2004, 06:31 PM

WOW! It is amazing what u do. To do some thing like that in the states is one thing but in another country where it's foreign to u takes a lot of courage. Kuddo's to u! (spell?) The pic's were just great. Keep up the good work!

Pure14K · #14 02-15-2004, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NavyWife97


	[color=deeppink]We work with "Lega Pro Animale" and run a "Spay a Stray" program

I have a question... When you say you run a "Spay a Stray" program, do you mean you & your dh? Out of your home? And if so, how do you organize something like that? How big of a home do you have?

By the way, awesome thing that you're doing helping these animals... Like someone else said, not many people would do anything like that....

DirtySouthChins · #15 02-16-2004, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pure14K


	I have a question... When you say you run a "Spay a Stray" program, do you mean you & your dh? Out of your home? And if so, how do you organize something like that? How big of a home do you have? By the way, awesome thing that you're doing helping these animals... Like someone else said, not many people would do anything like that....

Our organization "Naples Friends of Animals" runs the "Spay a Stray" program in part with "Lega Pro Animale" and Italian vet clinic/shelter. We in noway have the means to do that type of procedure or medical skills for that matter. We do fund raisers for 1/2 of the costs for steralization than the volunteers do what they can to steralize as many strays and funding out of their own pocket(s) for the other 1/2. It can get costly, but we do limit ourselves, we have one lady that primarily does the spay a stray, and there are other's that do what they can by fostering ect... We primarily foster but we do have our goal for steralizing strays per month. We try to do at least 3-5 animals for us personally because that is all we can afford, the other time we are primarily fostering. Our current house is 4 levels including 3 bedrooms and a giant open loft area, one of our bedrooms is our "isolation room", however we are moving into another house in a few weeks, which will have 3 different seperate outdoor areas, this helping to keep the strays seperate from our pets, the house also have 5-6 giant storage areas downstairs in the courtyard area, and we plan to use at least 3 of them for kennels, we are planning to convert the top part of the doors that are all glass to screens, this making like an indoor kennel. The new house is approx. 3300 sq. feet if I remember right.
Thanks again everyone, I don't take praise very well as it is something I love doing