My dog, my fence, the law? - Page 2 - Paw Talk

Chinchilla_Girl · #16 08-02-2004, 09:10 PM

There is always child protective services if the unsupervised child gets out of hand...next time he's wandering on the road or playing at the fence, I would call them. Tell them of past problems with the child's mother and that unsupervised, you are concerned he may get hurt. I know it's a harsh thing to do, but it may at least scare the mother into taking better care of her child...either that, or they will deem her unfit...either way, the child's safety (not just from your dog, but so many other hazards) is what's important here. Granted I would still get the slats though...you never know who's children are wandering around unsupervised

chocolatepuppy · #17 08-02-2004, 09:53 PM

Chinchilla_Girl I hope that I scared them enough by telling them I called the dog warden. I notice the daughter parks further down the drive when she comes over so she won't be near my fence. And they know I won't hesitate to call childrens services or the animal shelter if I think there's a problem with her dogs. I confronted her about things in the past.She knows I'm not kidding when I say something.Not that I think I own the neighborhood but she seems to think she can do whatever she wants! Other neighbors have called the cops about her dogs running loose(now they don't) Will keep everyone updated on this as I've gotten such helpful responses from you all!

PaBabyBlue · #18 08-03-2004, 08:00 AM

I know what you mean, Chocolatepuppy, about Ohio being a pretty tough state, where children are concerned, as well they should be because we should protect our children.....but the parents should do their part too...which is what your neighbors don't seem to be doing.... Great idea Mandie about calling Child Protective Services the next time she lets them run loose and unsupervised on Chocolatepuppy's property near her Lacey. Maybe that will make her wise up and take care of her kids a little better or take them away, since Chocolate said she is alway stoned or drunk all of the time

(poor kids) and her animals. Good Luck with all of this and keep us updated

pihlaja · #19 08-05-2004, 09:23 AM

Whether or not you should put up a "Beware of Dog" sign depends on where you live.

In Louisiana, you BETTER have one if you have dogs along with a "No Trespassing" sign.

I remember an incident where a solicitor came to my home in Louisiana and my grandfather walked outside to see what he wanted (he stayed in his car). I think my grandfather listened to him for two seconds before telling him he WAS NOT interested and turned around to go back inside. Solicitor gets out of car and my grandfather's dog growls. Grandfather tells man, once more, he's not interested and to leave. Well, apparently this man was just hard-headed, stupid, or both but he got all the way out of his vehicle and came towards my grandfather. Well, my grandfather's dog probably sensed this man was not welcomed and so he growled again. Solicitor ignored the dog's warning and kept coming (grandfather was at the door by now). When the solicitor stepped on the sidewalk, the dog nipped his shin.

Well, that woke him up, indeed! I remember him yelling about vicious dog and it attacked him and he was calling the cops.

When the cops came by, there was a long, drawn out discussion about what happened, blah blah, and I didn't hear most of it (since I was young and really was just terrified of the cops, anyway). However, the cops did state something along the lines of the man could not press charges because 1) there WAS a "No Trespassing" sign and 2) he was told to leave the property which he did not do. But there are some screwy laws in Louisiana where he could possibly still press charges because the dog bit him, which is where the cops told us the "Beware of Dog" sign needs to be up along with the other "No Trespassing" one.

So, in summary, it depends on your STATE (or parish/county) on whether or not you need the "Beware of Dog" sign.

chocolatepuppy · #20 08-05-2004, 08:20 PM

pihlaja I just can't get a straight answer about Beware of Dog signs, even the dog warden wasn't so sure he was "well it might be a good idea".

But anyways tonight I hear the kid screaming next door, my husband and I were both out and we didn't know she (daughter) was even there because she doesn't have a car.
It's like she's keeping him away from the back of the house though. One would think she would try to teach him not to run up to a dog he doesn't really know. Wait till he runs up to a dog on a chain! I watch my 'furkids' very close so hopefully with that and a little help from the neighbors there will not be any problems.

pihlaja · #21 08-06-2004, 07:27 AM

People like that should not be raising children. It's a shame you have to deal with a neighbour like that, and I'm sorry.

The sad part is that I KNOW about people like that because my mother is one of them (thankfully she DID NOT raise me). The concept of responsibility is foreign to them and most of them act like children can think for themselves, therefore they don't have to watch them all the time.

If it EVER looks like she's not taking care of her child and is just letting it run loose through the streets, PLEASE call child welfare services and tell them about it.

As for the "Beware of Dog" sign, you might not need it. But if all of this continues and the woman isn't taking any heed to your warnings, put the sign up. Most people tend to listen when they see that sign (and you don't have to keep it up forever--just long enough for them to get the idea).

chocolatepuppy · #22 08-06-2004, 11:17 PM

pihlaga Oh don't worry if I can get anything on these two I'll be calling someone. I actually liked them at first but the druggie stuff really turned me off and by selling drugs in her driveway I feel she also puts us in danger.

She just hangs out with a bad crowd you don't want around.We'll see what the next few weeks brings, hopefully things will be okay.
If I ever think either of them isn't talking care of that child or her dogs I'd be the first one on the phone

Scoobygirl314 · #23 08-11-2004, 03:45 AM

I know I'm a little late to reply to this thread...but I had a similar problem. I lived in a house and owned two pittbulls. They were friendly to people...but not so much to other animals. My backyard was completely fenced in. The guy next door to us had a dog that ran loose in the neighborhood...it was never contained in his yard once. The dog would always come over and fight with my two through the fence. I kept telling the guy he needed to keep his dog in his own yard and to keep him off my mine. Well the guy didn't listen...and he even told me his dog would kick my dogs butts. One day when I was home alone his dog got under my house. My two found a way under the house and a huge fight broke out. I tried everything I could to break it up short of putting myself in danger....but sadly his dog lost his life. After that happened they guy next door called the pound on us and we had to pay a lot of fines. I got upset because I told the guy more than once to keep his dog in his own yard....but he never listened. I really felt bad for his dog...because he is the one who suffered.

pihlaja · #24 08-11-2004, 09:11 AM

The pound didn't even care that you had repeatedly told the man to keep his dog in his yard, or that the man didn't care enough for his dog to make sure he stayed where he was supposed to?

Scoobygirl314 · #25 08-11-2004, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pihlaja


	The pound didn't even care that you had repeatedly told the man to keep his dog in his yard, or that the man didn't care enough for his dog to make sure he stayed where he was supposed to?

Nope all the pound cared about was that I owned two pittbulls and that they killed a dog. Everyone knows how pitts get treated. I was fined and everything over it, and they tired to say both of our dogs were dangerous and needed to be put down. Thankfully that didn't happen.

chocolatepuppy · #26 08-11-2004, 04:20 PM

'Scooby' It's never to late to reply to this post as I really want to hear everyones story. Sorry for what you had to experience. It is sad that we can buy a house, keep it up, pay taxes and then have no right to enjoy our property because of others!

Chinchilla_Girl · #27 08-11-2004, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Scoobygirl314


	I know I'm a little late to reply to this thread...but I had a similar problem. I lived in a house and owned two pittbulls. They were friendly to people...but not so much to other animals. My backyard was completely fenced in. The guy next door to us had a dog that ran loose in the neighborhood...it was never contained in his yard once. The dog would always come over and fight with my two through the fence. I kept telling the guy he needed to keep his dog in his own yard and to keep him off my mine. Well the guy didn't listen...and he even told me his dog would kick my dogs butts. One day when I was home alone his dog got under my house. My two found a way under the house and a huge fight broke out. I tried everything I could to break it up short of putting myself in danger....but sadly his dog lost his life. After that happened they guy next door called the pound on us and we had to pay a lot of fines. I got upset because I told the guy more than once to keep his dog in his own yard....but he never listened. I really felt bad for his dog...because he is the one who suffered.

I'm so sorry you got fined but as an owner of two pitties myself, it goes to show how important it is to get loose running dogs reported to the police EVERY time! I bet you wouldn't have been fined if there were several reports on record of the other dog running at large and harrassing your dogs. If the owner of the other dog had been talked to by police, I bet he would have kept better track of his own dog.
I've found here that the police aren't as bad as you may think when it comes to properly restained pitbulls...ususally they are more than happy to see my dogs and pet them when we come upon the police

Crazy Chin Lady · #28 08-11-2004, 11:45 PM

Chocolatepuppy, I can relate too well to what you speak of.

Although the child isn't as young as the one you describe, we have a younger girl that lives next door to us. She seems to run wild in the streets, and I'm glad it's not late at night, but she doesn't seem to have such a close eye on her as you think she should have.

For example:
We moved into our house last year. We adopted Harley about a month after moving in. We have a fenced in backyard, and it's nice because Harley can run out there and do her business, and we don't have to worry about her getting loose. Our big issue was the kids next door would constantly jump over the fence whenever a ball came into our yard.

Granted, Harley wouldn't hurt them, she loves everyone, but there's always that chance that she would. The mom told them once to not do that, but that was it.

They've done that more than once where they've come into our yard. We've asked them to please ring our doorbell if the ball ever got into our yard, so that way we could get it and not have to worry about anyone getting hurt.

I guess the situation isn't the same, but I do know what you mean about the safety of the child and your dog.

chocolatepuppy · #29 08-12-2004, 06:12 AM

Crazy Chin Lady Oh it sounds like you've got a problem there too. In your case I would definately call the police because what happens if the child gets hurt climbing over the fence? Are you liable? If this kid, say next year climbs my fence or even tries the police will be out here!

Chinchilla_Girl · #30 08-12-2004, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Chin Lady


	Chocolatepuppy, I can relate too well to what you speak of. Although the child isn't as young as the one you describe, we have a younger girl that lives next door to us. She seems to run wild in the streets, and I'm glad it's not late at night, but she doesn't seem to have such a close eye on her as you think she should have. For example: We moved into our house last year. We adopted Harley about a month after moving in. We have a fenced in backyard, and it's nice because Harley can run out there and do her business, and we don't have to worry about her getting loose. Our big issue was the kids next door would constantly jump over the fence whenever a ball came into our yard. Granted, Harley wouldn't hurt them, she loves everyone, but there's always that chance that she would. The mom told them once to not do that, but that was it. They've done that more than once where they've come into our yard. We've asked them to please ring our doorbell if the ball ever got into our yard, so that way we could get it and not have to worry about anyone getting hurt. I guess the situation isn't the same, but I do know what you mean about the safety of the child and your dog.

yeah, you need to nip that in the bud so-to-speak. An old co worker of mine almost lost her beloved boxer due to a stupid adult jumping her fence to retrieve a ball...She has 2 boxers and a pit and EVERYONE knows they are there and she has signs posted, but either last year or the year before, her neighbor (adult) jumped her fence to retrieve a ball for his kids and when he did, Tyson, her male boxer bit him! 2 or 3 days later, he called the police and reported the bite. Animal control came out and took Tyson from her. Even though he had all his shots, they still quarentined him for 10 days as they tried to make a decision on if he was vicious or no. Tyson is an aggressive dog when it comes to protecting his yard and at Animal Control, they teased and tormented him

They deemed him as unsafe but due to the neighbor's stupidity and the fact she had Beware of Dog signs clearly posted, she was made to pay a fine and allowed her dog back...He's not the same and even more on guard now. It wouldn't surprise me if he bites again due to what he went though. Not his fault but the fault of that idiot neighbor who jumped her fence knowing her dogs were in the yard.