My PitBull

[Leo]

I guess I'm wondering how and why she got loose in the first place?


Is it really animal controls fault for picking up a loose dog without identification? You are lucky you didn't get a bigger fine for having your dog loose. There are leash laws for a reason, most of them are set in place to protect your pet. The fact that she is a PitBull has nothing to do with it, animal control picks up loose dogs regardless of their breed.


I'm glad you got your dog back. Hopefully she won't get loose again.

[Vanilla_Rat]

Alright.
I guess I should apologize.
I was having a bad day and the fact you misread my post really ticked me off.


I am also really glad you got your dog back.

[luvnature]

Quote: Actually its a She, and she didnt have her tags on because I dont like put collars on my animals or harness unless its manditory like my darn Java Macaque, and my marmoset loves. But yes We got her back the next day. It only costed us $138 but we are now attempting to sue the pound that had her because she was dehydrated when we got her back

I am sorry for saying He when it is actually a She


I am glad you got your dog back but please just keep the tags on from now on. Just b/c you do not like to keep them on is not a good reason not to have them on. I am sure your dog will not mind as much as you may think She does.


We all gotta follow rules even if we do not like them and we sometimes learn why those rules are there too late as in your case. Now you had to pay a fine and went thru all that worry.


Tags are necessary for a good reason just as is the leash law. Rules are rules.
Your dog depends on you to follow them for her safety also. Its best not to let her run around loose.


I hope your dog is doing okay and not dehydrated anymore. It must be a relief to have her back. Hope she is doing well.

[Kendalle]

i hope she is doing well also, and i think it is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY to have the collar and tags on just for this reason, dogs are amazing at finding trouble, and getting out and things and its for unexpected outings that tags are needed most for. They at least show that the animals isn't a stray and has someone that cares for it.

[Purple-Hops]

if your so against collars and tags why not have your vet micro-chip her? that way she'll fell the freedom youve always given her by not having a collar and she'll be protected come another situation as this(althoguh hopefully theres no more!!)

[marmilla]

What is it you don't like about collars? If you're afraid of injury, there are break away collars that will come off if the animal gets stuck on something. There are also tags that don't hang down from the collar ( http://indigocollartags.com/ ). There are also nylon collars you can get customized with your phone number and pet's name on them.

There are bad people in this world. I wouldn't leave your pet unattended out in the front yard. My father was a policeman in a small town and there were many reports of people hurting animals that were left unattended. Someone shot a poor cat with a BB gun and another time someone poisoned a dog.

[ItIsMe]

I read your post just fine and I am sorry if I ticked you off but uniformed people are my pet peeves. But any way what I said was that they used to be used to fight bulls with other pitbulls and that they would not fight each other they would fight the bull. Originally pitbulls where a team, and fought against the bull as a team. Why would people put dogs that where aggressive to other dogs in a pit together? Thats what I was trying to point out the first time. No Pitbulls are not bred for fighting when bull fighting was no longer accepted by Society the breeders of pitbulls over the years bred that out of them. They no longer feel the urge to fight it is so distant a trait in them. Yes don't get me wrong there is them people who take the breed and use that trait illegally. Go to Puppyprofit.com and you will see what i am talking about. But it is not accepted by every body and not every breeder participates in this. but as I said before any dog with teeth can and could be dog aggressive given the right circumstances. Sorry if I seemed offensive Vanilla_rat. In my area there is people who get together at a place we call the bull run once a year and there could be thousands of pitbulls there. Its a very fun but very catiuos day we have at least one accidental fight that needs broken up every year. People bring there dogs with muzzles on but by the end of the day the muzzles are removed and the dogs are enjoying there selfs as well. we have plenty of water on hand but we never feed them because most dogs are very protective over there food. I will have to post pictures of this years frenzy all of my pits go and they come home tired and ready for bed. I just hope that in the future more and more people educate them selfs about the breed and have the wonderful oppurtinuty to own a sweet little guy.

[Kendalle]

Vanilla rat loves pitbulls, you would know that if you read her posts, she has done a lot of research on them as well.

The fact is the original purpose for breeding pits were to fight other animals, not hunt, but to fight them and use their strong jaw to over power animals.

It doesn't much matter if your dog is dog aggressive or not, there could be another dog that is when you let yours loose, and your dog can cause a lot of damage.

Those dogs used as a team to fight bulls were TAUGHT how to work together and fight a bull, they weren't born being a good team and to go after bulls. It isn't like they have a inborn trait that they see a bull and want to fight it.

With the right owner they are taught to be social, or taught to fight other dogs, or other animals, or people. With out a collar to tell who's dog that dog is, how do they know which kind of owner you are.

So care for your animal and keep it identified.

With as many states/cities/countries banning this breed you can see for yourself that many people find this to be a BIG problem and don't take it lightly.

anyway... please don't come to a forum to start an argument and accuse people of not knowing what they are talking about.

[luvnature]

I hope your dog has her collar and tags on now. It is the best thing to do.
Also it is a good idea to look into the kind of tags and collars that Marmilla mentioned in her post above.

[Jennicat]

To be completely thorough "pit bulls" were not bred to do anything, since "pit bull" is a generic term for a whole group of 'bully' breeds.

Though initially many of the "bull" breeds were used to help with bulls and with the barbaric bull baiting, they have been used for fighting since Victorian times. "Pit bulls" as a general rule are known to be dog aggressive, regardless of how much you would prefer that they were not.

Every leading pit bull advocate organization in the world recognizes this and urges owners to be responsible for their dogs to avoid more bad press.

[Vanilla_Rat]

When I use the word "pitbull" - I am generally talking about the American Pitbull Terrier.But as you mentioned "pitbull" is often used to describe a bunch of different "bully breeds".

[Crys]

For a pet forum, I'm disgusted to see some of the comments here. An aggressive trait CANNOT, and I repeat, CANNOT be BRED into a dog. Tenacity is one thing, not aggression. Dog aggression is popular among ALL breeds, especially when poorly socialized. It took me so long to get past the ridiculous rumors that people (even "experts") spread with conviction. You may like Pit Bulls, but you're doing them a major disservice to say that they "tend" to have ANY sort of aggression. They're freaking DOGS just like any other, nothing less, nothing more! Any dog can be dog or human aggressive based on their breeding (level of tenacity, dominance, energy, etc), and upbringing. The most tenacious American Pit Bull Terrier (or any breed) can still be dog friendly in the hands of a responsible owner, and vica versa.


The only issue with "Pit Bull" breeds is that everyone THINKS they know what they're talking about (when most don't) and they get a bad reputation from a few bad incidents which are 99.9999999% of the time because of the owners.


If the OP didn't let their dog roam, it wouldn't be able to do anything bad without you supervising it. So lets say a child wandered by and started taunting your dog and it rightfully defended itself, that would now be in the headlines as "Pit Bull" attack and the OP of this thread would be at fault. Granted, nobody should taunt a dog but you should never willingly put your dog in a situation to have to defend itself. Accidents happen, letting your dog roam is simply an accident WAITING to happen. Aside from a lawsuit, for your dogs safety, your heartache, etc... for OTHER Pit Bull and dog owners- PLEASE don't let your dog roam. Common sense really... you'd think.

I'm sorry to come off so blunt... but I haven't posted on this forum for a long time. Decided to pop in and saw this... my heart is racing from some of the comments. It's so upsetting to hear pet lovers actually spread some of these false beliefs as though they're experts on the topic.

[marmilla]

Dogs come from wolves. Wolves evolved to eat other animals for food. Some people would call this aggression towards prey animals. Dogs, although domesticated, still have some of these tendencies. Many dogs were bred for hunting and protection. Therefore, this prey/protect instinct is ingrained in them. Of course they are going to show aggression if not properly trained. As would any wild canine.

Small animals can seem like prey to dogs. They will show aggression from time to time because they see them as toys/food/otherwise unless trained.

I think you are really overacting.

[Vanilla_Rat]

Yes...ANY dog can show aggression.There are different kinds of aggression - fear,dog,human...etc.I am not saying (nor is anyone else here) that all pitbulls are dog or human aggressive or aggressive in general.TODAY however ALOT of pitbulls have dog aggression BRED INTO THEM.Not human,but dog aggression.


I am not going to going in circles arguing my point.


The thread is about the OP's dog (lets not even mention breed) who was roaming with no tags and picked up by a shelter.At least she got the dog back and maybe this incident will teach her a lesson and she will keep tags on the dog or a better eye on the dog in the future.No dog should be roaming without tags,regardless of breed.No dog should be roaming in the first place.


I am not going to keep arguing.I said what I had to say.Either agree or don't with me.But the truth is,many dogs are DA.Deal with it.

[Vanilla_Rat]

I just looked it up and on MANY APBT rescue/advocate and lover's sites it mentions how alot of pitbulls have DA bred into them - because it's true.They are very loving with people,but can be very DA...even not showing any until they get older.


I had some of the links ready to post,but then changed my mind.If you really wanna learn - you will look it up yourself and do your own research.Just Google it and you will find all kinds of info.


I am done here.