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Unhappy charlie's saga...continued.....

ok...i am seriously at my wit's end!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

here is me:


charlie's gone from peeing on a few things (because of his uti) to spraying like a madman!

he's sprayed before, but maaaybe once a day and it was never in my room (where he lives mostly). it would be out in the house where the dogs are. so i understood that. but all of a sudden, for the past three days, he's been on a non-stop, spray-a-thon. he sprays on the windows, my dresser-drawers, my nightstand, the trashcan, the door, EVERYTHING! W-T-F?!?!?!?!

is there anything i can do besides the felliway? i only ask because i have no idea how long it will take to get it in. i want to get the plug in and the spray. i'll spray the whole room if i have to!

i thought it might be cause i wasn't spending enough time with him, so i tried to hang out with him, but he just sprays in front of me!! and i tried sleeping in there the other night and he kept spraying the window. i had to finally leave. i really want to get a spray bottle for when i catch him in the act. i will asap.

i need HELP!

(btw - he has a vet appt on monday).

also -
his poos are more squishy now than runny.
i haven't noticed many/any pee balls in the litterbox. i think he's using all his pee to spray.

and keep in mind:
i'm not mad at him! just frustrated. i still give him kissies.


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The only other option is medication (as mentioned in the other thread). I don't think that's the best option considering you haven't tried the Feliway. Have you tried the Cat Site? If you haven't, I would strongly suggest it. They are a wealth of information and really helped me with Max's eating issue.

My suspicion is that he is having more serious medical issues than a simple UTI. As I said before, I would push strongly for an ultrasound. If nothing else, it would rule out stones and polyps. You might have to pay for 1/2 day of hospitalization. His bladder will most likely be empty so they will have to hold him until they have a full enough bladder to get a good look.

I'm not sure that spraying him with a spray bottle is the best option. Punishing them for urinating/defecating, even when it's inappropriate, is not usually a good idea.

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ok, well i won't get the spray bottle then. if i catch him i yell NO. i don't know what else to do. do i just let him finish? should i get a can with pennies to shake when he does it?

i will bring up the ultrasound at the vet monday.

about the cat sites - is there a way to link to these threads or do i need to re-post everything? i may wait until after the appt tomorrow to post.

thank you so much, candice.


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btw, candice - can i use the feliway spray and plug-in together? can i overload on the scent? thanks!!


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Yes, you can use them together. I don't think it is really necessary (one or the other should do) but there is no harm in using both. I would get enough plugs for a few outlets around your house.

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I agree with Candice, Jane. It sounds like something else could be going on here that he keeps doing it so much. Feliway is really the only thing I can think of besides meds, like she said, too. How did the appt go today, though?? Maybe you have some more answers by now? I hope so! Poor Charlie and poor you!
I agree, if you are going to use the Feliway, I would just get a few plug ins to start with. That should be good!

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thanks, guys.

ok, big update time!

first off, he has gunky ears. so i got him some drops. the ear canal looked good and there was no bacteria. just yeast. because of his ears she gave him a steroid shot. this shot will also help relax his bladder.

ok, bladder time (i even took notes at the vet's):
she ran a urinalysis and found no red or white blood cells and no crystals. so that's good. i asked about the ultrasound and she said that she could make him an appt for one (they have a specialist come in), but that she doesn't think there is one because there are no red blood cells in the urine. but she said we could do one to be on the safe side.
so here is what she thinks:
she said since she didn't find evidence of a UTI right now that she thinks he has Sterile Cystitis. Sterile Cystitis is when a cat has an irritated bladder and goes back and forth from having a UTI to not having one. that is what charlie is doing. (btw - i took home some Cosequin for him, which will help with his bladder lining). so, she and i both believe that he is on a spray-a-thon because of stress.
what stress, you ask?
well, charlie had always been outside before i took him in (and i know he loves it out there) and he likes the stimulis (sp?). the other reason he is stressed is because he wants to be with me ALL the time and i can't spend that much time with him (cause he stays in my room). i want to let him out more, but i can't cause he pees on stuff. it is a catch 22. so we (dr. and i) both really feel that the main reason that charlie is having bladder/spraying problems is because he is stressed and needs more stimulis and attention. so overall, we feel that his environment is his problem.
she is going to try and help me find someone or an organization that can help me. i won't let him go live in a cage somewhere, but i hope that an organization can list them on their website or that a very knowledgable person can adopt him. she knows someone that has a siamese cat rescue that might be able to help (even though he is tuxedo).

whew! so i will keep you guys updated. if anyone knows of any person or organization in texas (or surrounding areas) that can help me, let me know!

oh ...and he made sure i knew he didn't like going to the vet. he peed in the car on the way home, right on the seat. grr. oh well!


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Jane you sure are going through a huge ordeal aren't you! Reading up on you and Charlie makes Milko seem soooo sweet and innocent!! haha
If the vet is out to help you that should help you find him a home. I'm guessing he isn't going to stay with your p's now? Vet's know lots of animal lovers so there might even be a client that will be willing to give him the life he is craving! In the mean time though, I still think you are doing an awesome job with him! I can't imagine too many people putting up with everything you are when you took him in off the streets. I'll keep my fingers crossed that he finds a home soon. I know you're going to be sad to see him go but I know you are doing what is best for Charlie.

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thank you so much, carmen. i am just trying to do the best that i can.

i went to petco today and got him another cardboard scratcher (this one is at an incline and has a hole in it with a toy dangling in there) and he loves it. i also got him a little toy that rattles for him to bat around.


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Mine LOVE that scratcher! Sorry your having so many problems with Charlie. Most people wouldn't have tried so much or so long and would have just dumped the cat back outside. Magilla still has blood in his urine and is still peeing in my husbands bathroom on paper towels left for him. He does this to show us that he isn't better yet. Luckily he isn't spraying or even peeing elsewhere.

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thank you, dena. i am still probably going to do the ultrasound, just in case.

i couldn't do it today, though, because the specialist wasn't there and you have to make a special appointment. but i'll let you know. i think i am going to do it.


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At least if you get the ultrasound done Jane, you can adopt him out with peace of mind that he is a healthy cat I'm sure that will benefit you just as much as Charlie!

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Awww man, Jane! What an ordeal is right!!! You have such a big heart! I hope everything works out, and I am crossing my fingers you find him a good home! Keep us posted!

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thank you, everyone.


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small update:
i called a couple of days ago about getting him an ultrasound (sorry - forgot to update you guys) and the it takes a little while to see the specialist. he is booked early in advance. so charlie will be going to get one when i get back from london (that week i am back). it was really the earliest i could do it. but he IS getting one. just thought i'd let you guys know.


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