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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 08-28-2008, 02:57 PM Thread Starter
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Pissing WARS!! driving me insane

I need some help,

I have a group of cats. 6 to be exact. I am not sure if there is any hope for this problem.

A little history is in order:

I started with 3 cats all in doors in this house I have occupied for 6 years.

Soon I got 2 strays and one of my indoor cats moved to the outside. One cat had a kitten and another died tragically, which is unrelated to this problem.

Prior to my daughter moving in with 2 other cats, i noticed that someone was wanting to use the bathroom rug and tub for a potty.

However, after that they began to have pissing wars all over the house.

My daughter moved out and took one cat and left her other cat behind.

I believe this is when the problem quickly has lead to my consideration of getting rid of some of the cats.

I began making 3 cats stay outside (2 want to be out anyway, the third does too, but she travels back and forth when allowed.)

That makes 3 cats in the house. I have one that was never spayed, hence the kitten (she is now 2 years old).

I am on vacation this week and staying at home. I have been monitoring as best I can the potty habits.

they piss on my clothes, in the hallway upstairs and apparently any where they want.

I am completely hopeless that I can trust them to use the litter boxes, the basement floor is filthy, someone seems to think the entire floor is a kitty box. This behavior has been going on for sometime.

Now the inside cats are not full time outside cats, the 2 year old does not like outside at all, but I am commited to a cleaner house and if the cats must go then they must go.

I will give an example, I was cleaning upstairs for a minute, threw some pants down the steps that I was going to wash. By the time i had gotten down the steps one of the cats had defecated on the pants and that was the last straw!!! Out they went and OUT they shall stay.

Any one have any suggestions that DON'T cost money??

I am a social worker not much to spare at the moment.
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Just curious on how many litter boxes you have and how often they are cleaned out? Some cats don't like to share boxes and some won't go in it if it's too dirty. It's also a possibility that they may have a UTI or something else medically wrong. Are they all doing this or only a few?
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Well get them all fixed if you haven't already and get more litter boxes.

Sorry thats all I can say.I'm sure someone else will be by soon with more help.





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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 08-28-2008, 03:30 PM Thread Starter
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let me give you some names, it might be easier

Bunny a neutered male, my daughters cat
Rascal an unspayed female, 7 years old stays in the house
Sugar her kitten anti social only child and 2 years old.


Baby and Jasper stay outside, neutered males.
Missy (an old female, i think) has come into the house and often wants in but goes outside on a daily basis. However, i stopped letting her in.

I have had 5 or 6 litter boxes in the basement for a year. At first they were all centrally located. I bleach them out. For a time it seemed that when I put baking soda on the basement floor they would not use that spot. But I think it is a matter of habit by now for them to use the potty where ever they want.


Then i moved them to different corners. The boxes have been cleaned daily at times and at others not so often, it does not seem to matter.

Personally, I think this is a personality conflict. I have it kind of narrowed down to the 2 cats that I am forcing outside. I have one large kennel, I let one of them stay in it at night, I am not completely heartless and I know the cats have no logical clue about being kicked out of the house.

But last night it was raining and I felt bad for the other and let him in. Lo and behold some one defected on the bedroom rug and in the hallway. That was after i got up and picked up my clothes from the floor that I left there on purpose to see if one of them would pee on it and they did. I think it was Bunny, Sugar was kenneled all night. One night this week everyone was out but Rascal, the unspayed female, and there were no incidences.

I am going to call my daughter and tell her to pick up her cat or get another kennel.

The youngest cat is anti social for some reason, I tried to socialize her but it did not take, she is an only child.

this is a horrid situation. I am thinking of making a wire cage under the basement stairs to contain the area they can contaminate and placing the litter boxes there where i can lock them in that area, small but I could add a lounging area around the top of the steps, I hate to see them outside in winter when some of them want to be inside. But I am unwilling to live in one big litter box. I hate to take them to the humane society, but my sanity is at stake. I live alone and have a house to take care of a job and no one to really help on a regular basis. This has gotten really bad. I can not take it any more, I have too much to do and little time or energy.

and I am not whining LOL, I just need solutions.

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Ummmm...okay.


What kind of litter are you using?
Some cats can be finicky about the type of litter or how clean the box is.Also I would put at least one litter box on each level of your house.


But it could be a medical issues,as mentioned.




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ok this may be a stupid question, but i will ask anyway.

Did you ever have them litter trained? or just expect them to figure it out? with a whole house free for them to be in and having to go to the basement for their bathroom doesn't seam like it would work, you have to train them to use a box before you can blame them for not using it

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There is a product called Feliway that a lot of people are having success with. You said you didn't want to spend any money but honestly if you want to keep the cats you are probably going to have to. Feliway is a product that is kind of a glade plug in. You can't smell it but the cats can. It emits some kind of pheromone that pretty much makes the cat think that they already scent marked the house. When did you get the cats fixed? Sometimes if you don't catch them before they hit their hormonal stage fixing them won't help completely with the spraying issue.
I would make sure ALL the cats are fixed because the female that isn't spayed might be putting the males into a scent marking war.

If you have carpeting that was peed on you can shampoo it with some vinegar in the water to neutralize the smell. You can also do that to your laundry to make sure the smell is completely gone so they won't smell it on the fabric (like your bathroom rug)
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thanks for the headsup about the feliway. I did some reading about it and will give it a try.

I came home today and the water dish outside had been urinated in, I am at my wits end. I isolated the unspayed female and found that she is going on my dirty laundry. Yada yada yada,,,,

Again thanks for the tip. I read this article maybe others maybe interested:

http://vetmedicine.about.com/od/beha.../a/092404b.htm

I have resisted putting litter boxes upstairs but I think it is time to give it a try.

BTW: I was at petsmart today for an unrelated reason, while there I checked out the litter pans, I really don't understand human nature, but the difference in the prices between them and a grocery store across the street was like $10.00 for your basic litter box,,, LOL I guess someone has to keep the economy rolling along.

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Are your litter boxes covered? Often they don't like covered litter boxes.
Cleaning any spot that they keep soiling is the most important part. We had to have a piece of carpet replaced at my mothers house. We even removed the floor board.
Luckily we knew who was the instigator in my moms house. He was a wonderful kitty that was brought in but always supposed to be rehomed. We found him a perfect home and then cleaned up and they stopped using the living room corner as a litter box.
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You should check your area for a spay/neuter clinic. There are a bunch in my city that will do cats for practically free.

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I had a cat once, and she use to pee allll over the house, it was gross. She'd go on the rug, my clothes, books, pillows...it was pretty bad.

We found out she was doing it because of stress. When we first got her, she would only do it once in awhile, but then my parents got a dog, and that's when it got really bad.

The vet recommended that we try a product similar to feliway, try to keep her life as stress free as possable, and that if that didn't work we could try meds to help keep her calmer. My cat was a pretty extreme case though, she was a very very very nervous cat and the slightest change to anything in the house would really upset her.

Unfortuantly, I never got to see if the pheromone product would help at all because my parents got rid of the cat without telling me one day while I was at school.

Sorry I'm not much help, but I hope you can figure something out and get your cats to stop using your stuff as a litterbox.


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i'm still wondering if you ever had them all going in the litter box to begin with?

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