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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 02-16-2007, 09:29 AM Thread Starter
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"Removing the female sex organs means your cavy cannot get ovarian cysts or tumors, a potential health benefit. However, all considerations and risks must be weighed before deciding upon any elective surgery."
-http://www.cavyspirit.com/neutering.htm

so now i wonder what are the odds mammory tumors can occur after spaying...all risks of the actual surgery aside...are there any other articles that are helpful in suggesting that spaying has less tumor and other health benefits?


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Didn't you already ask these questions is your other thread? This one.

If you have some medical questions, there are a lot of helpful people on the guinealynx forums. They know a lot more than I could offer.

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yeah, i have tried but i couldnt get any medical links or any other advice - i will seek the guinealynx forums though


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They are referring to ovarian cysts or ovarian tumors (hence, "ovarian cysts or tumors" not "ovarian cysts or mammary tumors"), not mammary tumors.

I have to add that putting your guinea pig under for an elective, risky surgery to prevent one of the most common, easily removable (due to proximity to the skin), and recoverable types of lumps (mammary cysts/tumors) is just a bit above my head.

As a long time guinea pig owner who's dealt with a lot of medical problems and many surgeries, I would definitely consider mammary tumors to be a much safer surgical removal than getting a guinea pig spayed, especially electively.

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I agree with jennicat.
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well, if she gets the tumor, shes going to go into surgery anyway, anesthesia is risky, but im not saying i will or wont, its still up for debate


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It's not the risk of the anesthesia so much as the relative severity of the operations. To spay a pig, they have to open the abdominal cavity to physically remove organs. With an animal the size of a guinea pig, this is a huge incision in relation to their size. With mammary tumors/cysts in pigs, they're very close to the surface, and the incision that's made is not nearly so serious. (More like removing an abscess or lump). When you open up the abdominal cavity, there's more pain, more discomfort, and more overall likelihood and that the pig is not going to start eating again. Also pigs have to be under anesthesia longer with a spay while their ovaries and uterus are being removed, as opposed to the much shorter time when they're having the lump removed.

It's the equivalent of you having a growth removed from your arm, or you having your body cavity cut open and having organs taken out.

But if you want to risk your pig's life for an elective surgery that is not a widely used preventative, you're certainly welcome to.

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i know, but my rat that the vet successfully spayed along with several gerbils...and gps or larger in general..the vet is truly excellent at what he does and gives painkillers...but if these tumors arent prevelent then i wont spay, i want to consult with him,

but if im going to have to deal with a future that involves the removal of tumors, have them regrow, and do more anesthesia and surgery, then to me it personally doesnt make sense to put the little guy under so much stress over and over..if you have been under surgery, the amount of times i personally have, whether its your arms or your Crohns operations, you dont want to go over it again and again...once is enough


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Honestly, mammary tumors don't tend to recur that often. They're generally contained and don't spread (as I mentioned elsewhere). We've had several pigs that had one removed (one even came back as malignant from the lab) that has never reoccurred.

Rats are not GPs. I'm sorry if I'm coming across as unnecessarily grouchy, but you can't treat guinea pigs like other animals, especially not like omnivorous rodents.

For example, I've heard of amoxicillin being used with relative frequently for rats. Amoxicillin will kill guinea pigs because it destroys their gut flora. Their bodies/medications are not the same, and it's not unreasonable for a vet who's familiar with rats and other omnivorous rodents to be unfamiliar with guinea pigs.
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