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post #16 of 88 (permalink) Old 04-22-2008, 06:04 PM
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unless you are ready to bring them home, it might be better to simply call the store for the prices, see if they have any currently in stock, etc. It could save a potentially useless two hour car ride. Just a thought.

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post #17 of 88 (permalink) Old 04-22-2008, 06:06 PM
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Good luck with that. Petsmart usually only sells one gender of all their small animals. The one by me sells females, never any males. Just letting you know in case you are set on one gender and they have the other.

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Thanks =] This is harder then I thought. Do alot of poeple say "oh its just a rat, it will be EASY to find one" and then its harder then they think?
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post #19 of 88 (permalink) Old 04-22-2008, 07:39 PM
 
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Are there any Petcos around you? They usually have both gender "feeder" rats. Most of my rats have come from feeder bins from Petco or a bird/reptile store near me. They're always really sweet rats. The only thing you risk is possible health problems when buying from a feeder bin. Make sure to get fat, active rats with clear eyes and noses. Sneezing is a sign of illness, and so is being underweight, hunched over, slanted eyes, breathing through their mouth, "bloody" noses (rat snot is red)... but if they're nice and plump, curious, happy, playful then they're usually good health.

What someone else said was to try and find a reptile store. That's actually a really good idea. Look through Yellowpages.com or a phone book, and call around asking local reptile stores if they have live feeder rats. Sometimes pet stores inside of malls carry feeder/pet rats too. If it's a pet store call 'em up and ask if they have live rats.
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Okay I have a question about bedding and food for rats? I was thinking about getting this and this for my ratties if I find 2 at Petsmart:
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http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...53608&keepsr=0

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http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=2753485

tell me your opnions on this stuff.



And I don't think we have a Petco all I know of is Petsmart

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That hay is meant to be a food for rabbits, and I think guinea pigs. I don't really know much about it otherwise. For bedding there are many options, including Carefresh, Yesterday's News, Aspen, and Kaytee Softsorbent. You can look them up to find out more about them. NEVER use cedar or pine!!

For food, I advocate a good lab block as the base of the diet. The link you gave is for a seed mix. With a mix they can pick out the things that they like best and may not get all the nutrition they need. Mazuri makes a good lab block:
http://www.petsmart.com/product/inde...ductId=2754059

You can feed many other things in addition to the lab blocks, but as I said, it should be the base of the diet as it provides the necessary nutrition.

It's great that you are asking for information before you get rats, but I encourage you to try to learn a bit more before you actually get them. You are well on your way!

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post #22 of 88 (permalink) Old 04-22-2008, 08:47 PM Thread Starter
 
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oh thanks I will be getting the Carefresh bedding I posted and the food you posted. Thanks. And I saw that =] thats why I took the link down. lol thanks I really wanted yall to know yall have been really helpful and I hope everything works out with this. I just lost my dog that I have had sence he was 6 weeks old and he was 1 year and a couple months old when he died(even got hit by a car and we paid $500 to help him live and he still lived but something tragic happened to him about 2-3 weeks ago.) And I saw rats are very much like dogs but small, and very clean and friendly and need attention and right now I need something like that. I have a cat but she is VERY independent and doesnt like attention unles you go to her. So wish me luck, my sister said she might bring me to petsmart Thursday after my horseback riding lesson.
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I agree with what mtmaughan said.

Carefresh is a good bedding. It's nice and soft and won't poke the little ratties like hay would. I've seen some people using hay as bedding for rats, but I couldn't even begin to imagine how uncomfortable that would be. It'd be like walking on dead grass, ouch!
If you're low on money a good alternative bedding would be Aspen. It's dustier than carefresh, but it's cheaper. Never use Pine or Cedar, as these contain oils that will cause respiratory problems in most small animals.

As for food, Mazuri is a good staple diet. I, personally, like to give my rats a lab block [some good examples are; Mazuri, Harlan Teklad, sometimes you can mix Lite Senior dog foods like Innova, Wellness, etc for variety] and a seed diet as a treat. My rats like SunSeed... wow Petsmart.com has a limited selection. Anyways, since it's just a treat go ahead and look through hamster foods too. Find a food with lots of Safflower seeds [white seeds], fewer Sunflower seeds, less corn is better and no alfalfa. The reason I say fewer sunflower seeds is because Sunflower seeds are high in fat. Alfalfa and corn is indigestible to rats.

Oh! And a good treat once in a while is bird Millet Spray. I know that sounds weird, but once every few months I'll throw a millet spray in my rat cages. They love to shred them apart. It's more of a toy than a treat, but sometimes they'll eat the seeds.

Feel free to ask any more questions.
Here's a couple of websites you can browse for rattie help:
http://wererat.net/rathelp/
http://www.petratscanada.com/ratcare.htm
http://ratfanclub.org/helpinfo.html
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thankyou Moo, actually I am low on money hehe but I want the best for my ratties. So depends, I might buy the Aspen but is it ok for them? I don't want them uncomfortable or hurt or anything else. And as far as the millet goes, yea I have parakeets/budgies so we ALWAYS have millet spray so I will give my ratties a milley spray once every few months. Okay as far as 'home made' toys...um klenex boxes? toilet paper rolls? paper towel rolls? what is OK for your rat to play with?
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What do you all think about the names:

Male Names:
Tolo & Sushi

Female Names:
Lexi & Bella

because I am for sure getting 2 rats. Don't want one getting lonly =]
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I'd never recommend something that would be bad for little ratties =P. Aspen should be fine. I buy my ratties whatever I can afford. So like, lets say one week you have enough to buy Carefresh, do it. But if you don't have enough money for Carefresh every time then Aspen is fine.

Your home made toys sound great! Also, I give my rats plastic-free toys that my bird either doesn't like or is done with. So all those leftover stringy, nesting, wooden toys your budgies are done with go ahead and let your rats play with them for a while before throwing them out. Just make sure they don't have any plastic, rubber, or anything the rats might ingest that could be bad.

Also you can buy these rodent toys called "Kabobs" You remove the bell on the bottom and add chew blocks, fruit, veggies, toilet paper rolls, etc. Just check out the wood chews with holes in them at the pet store and pick your favorite.

Also, if you can't go to Petsmart all the time you can check out http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/ - It's a good site that I order a lot of my pet stuff from. They sometimes have better deals than Petsmart does.

OH! YOGIES! How could I forget the most important part of rat-keeping?! Petco is the only place I know of that sells Yogies. They are the absolute best bonding treat you could ever buy. My rat Miki gets mad at me if I run out of "her" yogies lol. You'll probably have to order these online, but I seriously recommend it. None of the rip-off yogurt treats are any good -- my rats will only eat Yogies.
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The Dapper Rat website has lots of great tips on making cheap toys:
http://www.dapper.com.au/toys.htm

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Okay, I find it difficult to believe that anyone would recommend looking for feeder ratties or petsmart ratties on here. My suggestion is to stay away from petsmart or anywhere else that sells live feeders. Sure, everyone on here including myself has stumbled into a chain store just getting supplies and ended up taking home some rat in the feeder bin that you feel sorry for, but you are in no position to deal with this. Of all the rats I've gotten at large pet stores (several before I knew better) 1 of them has managed to stay healthy for more than a week. The others have all cost ridiculous vet fees and died before a reasonable life span even after vet care. They just don't take good care of them. If I were you at 14 with little or no income for high priced emergency vet care I wouldn't intentionally walk into a mess like that.
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Oh, I got a bird from Petsmart and I got is August 2006 and he is still alive, healthy, and kicking =] Thanks for the tips mtm and Moo. And luvboyrats thanks for the tip but unless I find 2 cheap rats that come with little to no shipping price then I have to get them from Petsmart or try and find a Petco.

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i suggest finding rats on petfinder.com or craigslist, or your local humane society. there are way more lonely rats out there than you might think. i've gotten all my rats from breeders and humane societeties or some dude that's gotten allergic and needs to rehome his rat. and lots of these are free, not just cheap. rats aren't expensive to begin with, but it's the cost of upkeep that can get you. if you get a rat from a place teeming with illness, then you can bank on having to take it to the vet or it having a shorter lifespan. i know, i'm like you, love the rats, save the poor ones. but remember to use your smarts and not your heart. with animals it can cost a lot more if you use your heart. and you gotta be financially ready for that

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