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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 06-02-2008, 12:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Well, I am the proud new owner of two female mice!! My mom bought them for me on Saturday, much to my surprise! I had been discussing it with her for a couple of weeks, but didn't think she would buy them for me!

So here's my first question as a mouse owner. How many females can coexist happily in a 10 gallon tank? What about a 15? 20? I would like to add one or two more mice to the two I already have while they're still young and new at my house, but I need to know how much room is needed.

Also, in another thread, someone mentioned 'tank toppers'. Can someone show me a website that has these for sale or something? Thanks!!
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I think a 10 gallon tank is the minimum you should have for two, the bigger the better, if you want to add more you will probably want a 20 gallon +
But I've never used tanks myself so thats just from what people have said before on this site, oh!.. And welcome to paw talk!


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Thanks!

Yeah, I figured that a 10 gallon was the minimum. That's what I have them in for now, but I'm trying to figure out what I can do to give them a bigger place to live.
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post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old 06-02-2008, 02:13 PM Thread Starter
 
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What about an aquarium that is 36x17x13? (LxHxW) I think it's a 20 gallon, but I'm not sure.
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Oops, it's a 30 gallon, not 20.
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Alright, so they have officially moved into the 30 gallon tank. The dimensions are 36x17x13 (LxHxW). I plan to add extras into the tank to give it multiple levels and more places for them to run around.

How many females can happily live together in this size tank?

Thank you!
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Congrats on the mice!
Mice are neat little pets!

Tank toppers for sale:
http://martinscages.com/products/cages/toppers/
That website is actually a awesome site.However you need to make sure your mice cannot get out of the spaces,cause mice are crafty like that!




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I would get a tank topper. Tanks really encourage respiratory diseases. They aren't the worst thing in the world they can still get some draft but it does trap air in and their little systems are a bit delicate. I will admit I am more of a rat kind of guy but mice can be kind of cute as well. I have to think a 30 gallon would suit them nicely. I would also say that shelves and things like that not only add extra space but can be good to have for giving them little activities too. Great to make sure your rodents don't get too bored. Even rabbits can get too bored and get into trouble. Imagine how much more a rat or mouse can get in. LOL.

Congrats. I am sure you will love it.
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Thanks Fezzik, I will definitely look into the tank toppers. Would an aquarium be suitable if kept as clean as possible? I definitely have done research, and understand that it can cause some problems if not handled correctly. I surely don't want my mice to get ill, but a tank topper for 30 gallon tank is a tad expensive for a 16 year old. If it comes down to their health being threatened, I'll make the investment, but if I can, I'd rather keep it as clean as possible to prevent respiratory problems rather than purchasing an expensive tank addition right away.

I'm both a mouse AND rat kinda person. My family has owned 6 adult rats (plus one accidental litter from a rat that was purchased pregnant), and they are a ton of fun. Just thought I'd give mice a try this time!
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Ok not an expert so all of what I have to say here is to be taken with salt grains. I do know that the issue with tanks goes further than cleaning issues but other than that a tank like you are talking about would be fine for a while. Our 20 Gallon has been used as a temporary home for everything from a snake to guinea pigs so don't think I am saying get rid of the tank. Lots of people use them with little trouble you might want to make some adjustments in your thinking just to get air flowing through it. That can be as simple as turning on an over head fan periodically to the more complex stuff I get into below. Mostly I am typing my thoughts and I may have to get used to doing things differently while I am here but it is the style I am used to for forum communication.

I don't know much about the mice thing. I am sure there are many here that can tell you more about it. (by the way I sure know about accidental litters. We had one but it was a great one big beautiful babies) I don't think the problem with respiratory issues comes from it not being kept clean enough. I think it is an air circulation issue. Stagnant air causes problems and allows bacteria, mold, etc to build in the air itself. I think there is a certain amount of problems that can come from the build up of ammonia in the air in the tank. That can be managed by cleaning and pretty much once a week should be ok. I have to think that the larger the tank the better as far as this goes especially when you are talking about an animal as small as a mouse. The problem though is just like with fish in an aquarium without a circulation system it can get unhealthy quick.

The tank you have has some advantages I think. 36 inches long but only 17 inches high. I am no expert so I won't say it is great or not. It seems to me that that should allow for ok circulation. Just keep an eye on it. You might even consider some kind of exhaust system. It can be rigged from (ok my head goes almost immediately to complex rigging of old computer fans but that is just cause I have old computer fans and a soldering iron that I am itchy to use. LOL) but some kind of ultra low power fan just to pull air out of one side and encourage movement without causing a draft. Something that big and nice I wouldn't get rid of. Before I bought a cage if you think it is going to be a big problem then you should be able to get someone at a hardware store to cut the glass. A couple of small windows on either side should be all you would need and I imagine it would be cheaper than a cage. A little glass glue and some window screen and your in business. Affix it to the outside so they won't get into the glue and you might want to use a small gauge chicken wire instead or as well.

That being said we use glass tanks for some things. Mostly for temporary situations and we watch really closely for issues that arise.
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Thanks Fezzik, I will definitely look into the tank toppers. Would an aquarium be suitable if kept as clean as possible? I definitely have done research, and understand that it can cause some problems if not handled correctly. I surely don't want my mice to get ill, but a tank topper for 30 gallon tank is a tad expensive for a 16 year old. If it comes down to their health being threatened, I'll make the investment, but if I can, I'd rather keep it as clean as possible to prevent respiratory problems rather than purchasing an expensive tank addition right away.

I'm both a mouse AND rat kinda person. My family has owned 6 adult rats (plus one accidental litter from a rat that was purchased pregnant), and they are a ton of fun. Just thought I'd give mice a try this time!
Ah a 16 year old. Well I imagine you have more disposable income than I do so no worries. Ingenuity is the solution to all the issues I could think of with tanks.
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fezzik,

Thank you for all of your insight and advice. I will definitely be taking it all into consideration, and will be discussing it with my parents to figure out what we want to do. I really appreciate the well-thought out response, it is definitely helpful to get a lot of information like that. As of right now, I'm not 100% sure what the finished cage will be like, but I can now make a better decision thanks to your advice.
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As of right now, the only decent pictures I've managed to get of them are in the "what color are they" thread that you responded to, but when I get better pictures, I'll be sure to post them!
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Oh yeh, i've forgotten about that thread =] I can never remember who posts what.. =]

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