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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-24-2002, 01:00 PM
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Need info!

I got a small rodent yesterday but I can't find any info about it online cause I don't know the English or scientific name for the species.

The body looks like some small weasel but it has teeth like a hamster...and looks similar to hamster comparing the size, but it has a big fluffy tail (like chinchilla) and the tail is as big as the body leinght. Actualy it looks more like a squirrel than a hamster. It lives in Euroiean woods and also, like mouses it hangs in peoples houses too. Here we call the animal "Puh". It had brownish color on the back and white belly.

I don't have any pic, but if you know any link to a site with Eurpean rodents that could help me out please just point me where to look. I tried yahoo search but it lead me nowhere so I decided to try my luck with you
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Can you go back to wherever you got this animal and get more info? Was it from a pet shop or a personal breeder - or did you just find it somewhere?

Never heard of anything like it - but where I'm from we consider an armadillo to be a possum on the half shell (the Southern U.S.).

Hope you can find out something and share with us - maybe even get us a photo!!

Good luck!



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post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-25-2002, 04:49 AM
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I got this animal from one pet shop owner but he didn't know any more details to tell me, he got the animal as a gift (some man just brough it to the pet shop) and as I liked it so much he just gave it to me.

I know a friend of a friend that had been keeping two of these animals for long time so I will try to contact her to find out more details...

If I find some pic online or if I take some of my lil creature I'll post them for sure
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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-25-2002, 05:16 AM
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I found it!!! Here are the details:

Myoxus Glis (Glis Glis)

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Geographic Range:
Myoxus glis is a European species. It occurs from France and northern Spain to the Volga River and northern Iran. M. glis also occurs on the islands of Sardinia, Corsica, Sicily, Crete, and Corfu. (Nowak 1991)

Physical Characteristics:
The approximate length of the head-body is 14-20 cm. They have a gray back and head with dark, narrow rings around the eyes. The underparts are white or yellowish. Their pelage is short, soft, and thick. These animals are squirrel-like with large and rounded ears, small eyes, and a long bushy tail (11-19 cm). The hands and feet are both equipped with hard pads for use in climbing. The four digits of the forefeet and the five digits of the hindfeet have short, curved claws. Myoxus glis is sciurognathous and myomorphous. Dental formula: 1/1, 0/0, 1/1, 3/3. (Nowak 1991; Niethammer 1990; MacDonald 1984)

Natural History:
Food Habits:
Myoxus glis is omnivorous. It feeds mainly on seeds, leaves, buds, nuts, berries, acorns, and soft fruits. They eat insects occasionally and have been known to eat small birds. (Niethammer 1990; Nowak 1991)

Myoxus glis have one litter a year. The litter can consist of 1-11 individuals, but usually falls in the range of 4-6 offspring. Their gestation period is 30-32 days and the young weigh 1-2 g at birth. M. glis is usually weaned at 5-6 weeks and reaches maturity after 1-2 years. To attract males to mate, the females will drag their anal region across the ground to produce an odor marking. These trails are eagerly sniffed by the males, which then leave their marks on top. Also, edible dormice can make a whistling sounds at short intervals over long periods, which announce their willingness to mate. The wanting male pursues the female and makes a fine chirping sound with its mouth closed. At first, the female runs away or defends itself, purring and rattling its teeth and beating its paws. It may even jump the male and bite it. These acts are believed to be play because when the male gives up the female will follow it.

After mating, the female spends more time bringing nesting material into the den and becomes very sensitive to interference. It uses hairs and feathers as lining material. The nests are usually off the ground, in a hole in a tree for example. The young of M. glis exit the womb with the hind end first. The offspring are quite undeveloped at birth. The external ears unfold after 5 days; the auditory canal opens after 12 days; the eyelids separate after 21 days; the lower rodent teeth come through after 13 days while the upper ones come through after 2o days.

Mating season for M. glis is usually in July. The young are born around August, which gives about two months of growing time before they have to hibernate at the end of October.

(Niethammer 1990; MacDonald 1984)

The edible dormouse is primarily nocturnal and crepuscular, though occasionally it is active during the day. It is highly arboreal, and its agility in the trees may exceed that of squirrels. Some have been known to leap 7-10 meters. It has exceptionally good senses of vision, hearing, smell, and touch (through its vibrissae). Individuals visit many trees each night in search for food. The edible dormouse is territorial, marking its space by glandular secretions. Individuals are quarrelsome, and males have been reported to fight savagely during breeding season. Males usually leave the females after mating in search for other females. Myoxus glis hibernates from September/October to May/June. In late summer, edible dormice dig tunnels about 3-6 feet long and about 6-24 inches deep When it begins to get cold, most edible dormice retire to these tunnels where they are protected from frost. Some edible dormice winter aboveground in haylofts, under decayed trees, in beehouses, or in the nests of red squirrels. Several animals have been found hibernating together. This is especially common for females. The decisive signal to begin storing fat for hibernation seems to be the decreasing length of daylight. While hibernating, they decrease the body heat generated to 2 percent of the amount during the waking state; the breathing rate decreases to about 1-3 respirations per minute. They wake up immediately when touched, which shows that their nervous system works well during hibernation.

(Niethammer 1990; Melnyk 1979)

Myoxus glis inhabits inhabits deciduous or mixed forests and fruit orchards in both the lowlands and mountains. The most common site for daily shelter is the hollow of trees. The hollows may be lined with grass or other vegetation. M. glis also shelters in crevices between rocks, burrows among tree roots, woodpecker holes, piles of mulch, attics, barns, and artificial nest boxes. (Nowak 1991)

Biomes: temperate forest & rainforest

Economic Importance for Humans:

Myoxus glis is known for its luxuriant fur. In ancient Rome, its meat was considered a delicacy. In some parts of Europe, the meat of M. glis is still considered a gourmet dish. (Nowak 1991)

In some areas Myoxus glis is considered very harmful to the production of fruit and wine. M. glis has been known to do considerable damage to trees and is considered a nuisance. (Hoodless 1993; Nowak 1991)

Status: no special status

Myoxus glis is still rather common in Europe, occurring about 1 animal per hectare to 30 animals per hectare. Their numbers have decreased as a result of habitat destruction. (Niethammer 1990)

Other Comments:
The taxonomy of this species has changed. Many references refer to Myoxus glis as Glis glis and placed it in the family Gliridae, rather than Myoxidae. In addition to Edible dormouse, its common name has been refered to as Fat dormouse or Squirrel-tailed dormouse.

And the pic...but it looks much cuter live
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post #5 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-25-2002, 05:19 AM
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One more pic...

BTW, I think it is a female so I ned to come up with a cute name
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its cute. you're right that it looks kinda like a squirrel. i like squirrels. they're fun to watch. we feed the ones that live in my backyard. (not in person of course.)
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How cute! And I'm glad you found some helpful info on it.

I always have to wait and find out my animal's personality before I can name it - unless my family gets impatient with me and says "One name and that's it!" (They've done that to me a couple of times.)

Is she very tame? I used to really enjoy hand-feeding squirrels and rehabbing them, but they LOVED to climb all over you. My daughter has very long, very curly, very blonde hair and they always wanted to climb up her and "nest" in there. She finally put her foot down and said she would not feed another baby squirrel.

Congrats on the new baby. Let us know what you name her!



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post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-25-2002, 10:49 AM
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kind of reminds of a glider (just a bit)
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There are two other threads on this animal if you'd like to read them over. Here and Here.

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post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old 09-29-2002, 10:34 AM
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Thanks for pionting me to the articles Christi

She is still without a name...I'll think of something soon I guess She addapted to cage very well. I put some branches inside and she enjoys climbing on them. She is getting fater I think...cute little round one
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Very cute.I do like Critter on most of my pets is by watching them

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breeding season, gestation period, nest box, nesting material, pet shop, white belly

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