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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old 11-21-2009, 06:19 AM Thread Starter
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Unhappy Sick Betta Stopped Eating

I've had my female betta fish, Ling-Ling, for almost 2 weeks now. About 5 days ago I thought I saw something on her body, later I noticed it was a white dot, so I went out and bought Quick-Cure, which I treated her with for 3 days (today's the first day of non treatment). Yesterday, I noticed she didn't eat as much as she had been (she normally is very active with a very healthy appetite) & today she's really not eating at all, and her energy seems drained (though she is still swimming at the top of the tank). The white spot on the bottom of her body has not gone away, although no more of them have appeared. I'm worried about her. What do I do?
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What exactly do the meds you bought treat? Is it really general, or is it for a specific disease?
And after you answer Kaylas question, we will be able to help alot more.
For now, try adding some aqaurium salt, and if you have a heater, turn up the temp to about 80-82*F. This will help kill any infections.
To get him to start eating, try some frozen or live bloodworms or brine shrimp. They can go for weeks without eating, so he will be just fine as long as you treat his white spots, since thats probably why he wont eat. It sounds like he might have fungus or ick.



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I agree with the above posters, we really need more information to help. But here's what I would suggest:

-Get your water tested asap. Make sure you have ZERO ammonia and nitrites.
-Do a partial water change.
-Make sure the temperature in the tank is normal (heaters do malfunction sometimes).

I wouldn't recommend medicating her until you know exactly what's wrong. Could you maybe get a picture of her spot?




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I have trouble with her ammonia levels. I get it down & then in two days, it's back up again. I've done water changes regularly & everything. Her heater lately isn't as effective as it used to be; the temperature keeps fluctuating. The pH level is normal, though. She still hasn't eaten, & the other day it got really bad. She was trying to swim up & kept falling back down. The past two days, she's barely moved at all. Her back fin looked bad the other day, but then it got better. I've basically prepared myself to say goodbye to her. I'm really surprised she's still alive. All she really does is move her side fins, but she doesn't really go anywhere. Every few hours, I'll look over & she's moved an inch or so, but that's it.
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New update: I used a gravel vacuum and changed her water again today & she's now more active, but she won't eat still, the parasite has gotten bigger & the scales by her face are a coppery color.
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In a stable, healthy tank there should be NO ammonia. So something is going on.

What size is the tank? If the aquarium is too small then ammonia will build up really fast. What sort of filtration do you have and was the tank cycled first? (I realize the tank isn't cycled now since otherwise there wouldn't be spikes--but were you trying to cycle it?)

Live plants will also help with the ammonia. Try some java ferns or hornwort.

Unfortunately, until you get rid of the ammonia she's not going to get better . Good luck! Keep doing water changes, that's what's keeping her alive right now (you're literally removing ammonia).




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It's a 5 gallon tank. The ammonia level has been a lot better since I did that last water change, but it tends to start out that way, so we'll see. I just got her a filter that's only for a 3 gallon tank 'cause I heard bettas don't like current, but I took the carbon out so it won't eat her medication. I was trying to cycle it when I noticed this disease. I started a different medication today, since the Quick Cure didn't work. I have her on Coppersafe with BettaFix as an anti biotic. I can't see more than 2-3 inches into her water, but she's actually a lot more active after just the few hours it's been in. I also replaced her heater, & while it's not up to the temperature I set it at, it's warmer than before & the packaging said to wait 24 hours to see if it gets there before worrying.
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The reason the ammonia keeps spiking is because the tank is new and lacks the beneficial bacteria that usually remove it. When you do a water change, you're physically removing ammonia. But it'll just build back up again. That's why you need to do daily water changes right now in order to keep it down. Hopefully the tank will start to cycle soon . Is Tetra Smart Start (or whatever it's called, haha) available in your area? It'll really speed up the cycling process (it can actually cycle tanks overnight).




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Thanks! I'll call some local pet stores & see if they have it.
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Update!! Help!!

So it's been a month since I first posted, & while Ling-Ling's lethargy stopped & she's eating properly, the white dot on the bottom of her body between her head and her bottom fin is still there. I just recently (within the past week) stopped the medication & put the carbon back in her filter. She seems happy, as she's blowing many bubbles at the top of her tank, BUT:

The area of her body where the white dot is seems to have grown a lot. I thought maybe I've been feeding her too much, although what's weird about it is she looks almost pregnant (which isn't possible, as she has never had any contact with a male betta or water a male betta has been swimming in). In the bloated-looking area, it's like white is beginning to show through her naturally blue scales. She's acting fine (although a couple times, she swam around the tank so rapidly it was hard to keep track of her-this may be normal, though, as I am home more lately than before & may just never have taken notice to this?), but I just want to catch anything before it gets too severe. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

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Do female betta's make bubble nests??

Are you sure she is a she and not a he?





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So it's been a month since I first posted, & while Ling-Ling's lethargy stopped & she's eating properly, the white dot on the bottom of her body between her head and her bottom fin is still there. I just recently (within the past week) stopped the medication & put the carbon back in her filter. She seems happy, as she's blowing many bubbles at the top of her tank, BUT:

The area of her body where the white dot is seems to have grown a lot. I thought maybe I've been feeding her too much, although what's weird about it is she looks almost pregnant (which isn't possible, as she has never had any contact with a male betta or water a male betta has been swimming in). In the bloated-looking area, it's like white is beginning to show through her naturally blue scales. She's acting fine (although a couple times, she swam around the tank so rapidly it was hard to keep track of her-this may be normal, though, as I am home more lately than before & may just never have taken notice to this?), but I just want to catch anything before it gets too severe. Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Would it be at all possible to get a picture? The only thing I can think of at the top of my head is egg binding but hopefully that isn't the case. It's just hard to picture it based on the description.

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Do female betta's make bubble nests??

Are you sure she is a she and not a he?
Sometimes they do. It's rare, but it does happen.

Of course, it's always possible that the betta isn't a female and is actually a male plakat (which have short fins).




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Another update!!!!

Sorry, it's been a while, but I have another update. Ok, so her body no longer looks bloated (I think I was overfeeding her), but the white dot is still there & now, on the right side of her body, it looks like she's missing scales & it's been getting progressively worse. The weird thing is, she's acting like nothing's wrong. She's swimming about at the top of her tank, eating properly, & generally seems pretty happy. Her eyes, however, look cloudy & bloated. I looked at some pictures of popeye & it doesn't seem like she has that (it's been several days & it's nowhere near that severe). I tried taking some pictures with my cell phone, but they all came out pretty blurry & you can't really see anything from it.
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How are your water parameters at the moment? Is the ammonia under control?




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