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Anyone own a Staffordshire Bull Terrier??

In the next few weeks I'll be looking at getting another puppy. I will be getting one from the rspca but I'm going to ring until they either have a purebred or cross breed of the type of dog I want. Right now I'm leading towards a Staffy. I think they are gorgoeous, I like my dogs to be and act like a dog (no dogs I can dress up etc....they're cute but not for me), be energetic but enjoy a cuddle and not too aggressive. A little protective is ok but no more. I'll be moving later on this year and don't know what size yeard I'll end up with but no matter what dog I get or what size yard it has it will get a walk for at least 30 minutes every single day, will be played with and have mind simulation as well. I read that these dogs were good in the city or the country and that the only thing that might not like is living with another dog. My b/f is not the biggest animal fan so there's only one dog at a time anyway. I just want to know good points and bad points from people that own them. I've done so much reading and am pretty sure a staffy is for me but is there anything I should be warned about first? I also have two rabbits but introductions would be slow and if they couldn't get along then I'm fine with that cause the rabbits are mainly indoors anyway. I need to know bad points cause I've just been through a horrible experience with Nacho and he was put to sleep yesterday at just 21 months and I am not going to do it to myself again. I know this post probably seems quick after Nacho but I've known that Nacho was going since November and I'm grieving for him....but sometimes I just have to think of my new puppy to stop the tears for Nacho. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanx guys!

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Oh, dear. I'm so sorry about Nacho. Was he ill? That's so young.

I don't have any info about Staffies other than I like them (I couldn't own one myself as I have a rather aggresive small dog), but you do have my condolences about Nacho.

I just saw his pic.
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Thanx Mickie....he wasn't sick physically, just mentally. He had a lot of genetic problems and was becoming way too agressive. He was getting very close to attacking someone...he was assessed by the best animal behaviourist in the area....it was a hard decision to make but on his last day with us he was even growling at my mum (who he adored) so I know it was for the best. He was just too big a dog to take the risk.

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Sometimes you just have to do these things. I know someone else who had the same problem and she worked with him for a long time with different trainers and finally had to make the same choice.

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I'm sorry to hear about Nacho. I don't know too much about Staffs but I do think that they are cuties! I hope that it all works out great for you.


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My neighbors have a few & I've been around them quite a bit. The one thing that stands out in my mind is that although they are great dogs (have never bitten anyone or anything like that) they are VERY protective of their owners. I don't know if that's a breed trait or not, but every single one of their dogs is that way. They are friendly, but you can tell if someone/something were to try to hurt my neighbors, those dogs would try to protect them. Good luck with your search & sorry about your dog
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Thanx Pure....I don't mind them being a bit protective....I go for walks by myself quite often and taking a dog that would act all protective and scare off any nasty people would be fine....as long as I could have faith that they weren't going to attack the person, or animal that it felt threatened by. My neighbours own two and while they bark at you at the gate they allow you to walk in the yard no worries....that's what I like in a dog, one who will bark at a possible intruder but be friendly to them as soon as they walk in the door....my first dog is like that (that's at my mums) but Nacho was the opposite. He'd get more aggressive the closer they got...I don't want that.

Thanx everyone for your support on Nacho.....I'm still crying for him everyday, I know it's just a nautral part of the greiving process and I won't be getting another dog until I'm very ready for one...if someone gave me a puppy right now I wouldn't accept it, I haven't even been game enough to walk in the backyard yet. Deep down though I know I did the right thing...aggressive dogs should not be kept..I never would have forgiven myself if he attacked a little kid or something and that was the way it was heading with him.

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I own two myself, well they are more pit bulls but technically they are all pretty much the same type of dog from the same beginning blood lines. My two are fantastic. They are two years old, well almost, but they were a handful as puppies. I think it was a lot of work because there are two. I was able to rescue mine as puppies in a wonderful foster home none the less so I had a completely clean slate to work with. Mine are not very protective at all other than that they look scary. They would hide behind me first before protecting me. I have studied this breed for 9 years now due to my wonderful best friend who was infatuated with them when she was 15 (saw one at a vets office) and forced me to join her on this journey of learning then when I grew up, got married and moved she bombarded me of pictures of these irresistable puppies and said I know you want one!!! So now I have 2 of my own. So I could go on and on but I have to go to the shelter this moring and clean some cat poop and feed some doggies and hopefully get everyone adopted. I will be back on later this evening, if I can help at all. I will post some pictures of mine for you too.
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Oh yea. I forgot to mention, they are stubborn. (or at least the ones my neighbors have) They have destroyed so many things (walls, fences, doorknobs, ect) and my neighbors have taken them through obidience school and everything! I don't know if that's a breed trait or not, but it sure does happen often over there
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pure lol Nacho destroyed my mum's lounge when he was a puppy...ate both cushions and one of the arms!lol There isn't too much here that can be destroyed. I am also home a lot so I will be able to kepp a close eye on them while they go through that stage. There will only be one too so I think that will make it a lot easier for me to handle. I will be rescuing her (I want a female...I'm avoiding testerone levels this time) from a shelter but I will be getting her at a young age...I want to start with a clean slate. When I am ready I will just start ringing the local shelter until they say they have puppies (under 10 weeks) and then I'm taking my animal behaviourist down with me and he is going to assess them so that I get the best dog possible. Dena I would love to hear more about your Staffy's! The stages you went through with them as puppies, what they are like now, how they socialised with other dogs etc. I read that they can be aggressive with other dogs. Another reason I want one at a very young age...I will socialise it well...we have a dog beach nearby so she will be there all the time, and at the river and just visiting friends who have dogs as well.
Dena my best friend is in love with staffy's too and that's how I started my journey with them!lol Although I only started my journey with them two years ago....but I'm completely in love with them!

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Yes they can be agressive with other dogs. In USA that, unfortunately, was a trait bred into them. But if it was bred in then it can be bred out. I have seen many success stories including my own two. I was able to pick them out of this huge litter and I watched very carefully what their temperments were. They were the two that were most submissive in the group. They can be stubborn sometimes. It took me almost a year to pottie train completely and sometimes at night I have to push Baci into the crate, but never one has she attempted to make an agressive move on me. Tearing up the house doesn't come from stubborness though, that comes from boredom just like any other breed. My two put holes in the walls digging for mice and ate some of the wood molding but that was when they were really little now they don't do anything. They are huge couch potatoes and wanna be lab dogs and they will try to fit their heavy 60 pound bodies onto my lap at the same time. I am not thin by any means but they definitely don't fit! The traits I have noticed in these breeds is that they are couch potatoes and lap dogs, they love to lick (especially toes and faces), and they like to jump and lick strangers. The only time I ever see my dogs display high energy is when someone new comes over. If they get used to you they could care less. They also usually snore very loud when they sleep. Because of their muscle mass people tend to believe that they are high energy and athletic dogs, I am sure there are many out there that are but I haven't met one yet. The other thing I notice is that the older they get the calmer and sweeter they get. My friend has a pure bred (she had two but the girl passed away a few months ago due to cancer) who was a maniac as a puppy and did the same things my dogs do. He stopped jumping on strangers finally and can be in the same room with her 9 month old while she is sitting on the floor. Of course if she is eating something then she becomes his human lollipop. I think that if you make sure of the right basic temperment (no agression, people, food or other dogs) they become wonderful companions and get better with age. I believe it was worth the work I had to do with them at a younger age. When I leave the animal shelter at night I come home and hug my dogs not realizing how wonderful and well behaved that they actually are compared to other dogs. Oh one more thing LEASH TRAIN EARLY. There stubborness shows on a leash and its very hard to train them as they get older. They are quite the pullers if there is no obedience training on a leash. But with that said once taught they can be trained to be excellent off leash dogs. There will always be good and bad in each individual dog and the dog you might pick may have none of the things I've mentioned here but that is just what I have noticed from all of this type of breed that I have seen. I hope this helps you a little. As you can see I could go on and on but I'll stop now

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OMG Dena they are soooo cute! That breed does have a bad rep in the US. Just the other day I saw where a dogfighting ring had be found and the man arrested. He had treadmills modified for the dogs and the sticks used to break the dogs apart. (to pry their mouth open) I find it sooo sad and awful that such sweet dogs can be treated so unfairly.


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I have no experience at all with this breed but I wanted to tell you good luck in your search!
Dena - your dogs are gorgeous! They look like absolute sweeties. I just love their markings, and their eyes! It looks like they have blue eyes! They look precious.

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Dena your dog's are gorgeous!!!!lol I'm looking forward to the couch potato thing! It's actually one of the reasons why I really started to look into this breed this time. I like a dog that will enjoy exercise and be active when I need it to be but Nacho never ever got tired and it was so hard...every time I went in the backyard he would bring a toy to me and we could play all day and he still wouldn't be tired....I wish he was still here now pushing his toys onto my legs but we now have the option of moving to a unit with a small yard and a dog that is happy to hang around in between it's exercising will be just perfect! She will be allowed inside but will sleep outside unless it is a really really cold night, then she will be allowed inside. She will have a sandpit and her own little pool to keep her cool in summer. I will get the leash on her from day one...thanks for the warning! Do they walk best on a harness, or a collar?? Nacho had to have a head collar (halti) cause he was 4 months when I got him and he pulled a lot on the lead and I needed it to keep my arm in place ( he was over a year before I gave in and got a halti) but I want to avoid using one this time if I can...I think they're a lazy way to train a dog. All puppies need the right training...my local vet knows so much on obedience and have all sorts of classes...I will be booking her in to them all! I'm taking my animal behaviourist with me incase they just get one or two in and not a whole litter...he is actually hired by the shelter to assess the dogs and if he thinks one is too dangerous to be homed it doesn't get homed. I know it sounds cruel but he is the best in the area and we are trying to reduce dog attacks around here...people just don't care if their dog is aggressive...it's terrible and so many don't get trained properly. After my experience with Nacho I need to know that I'm getting a good dog.....if I have to go through what I did with Nacho again I don't think I'd ever get another dog. It's just too hard....I need to know that this dog will be able to grow to an old age. I'm definantly thinking Staffy now.....nothing is turning me off them at all!

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I trained mine with regular choker collars. Its funny to see the look on their faces when I bring out the chokers. I call it the "game face". Their eyes get real big and their ears go back and they sit like they are at attention. They are very serious when is comes to their training. I had originally thought it would be great to clicker train but they can only focus on food when food is in front of them so that didn't work. It depends on what works for the dog.

I don't know how well leaving him or her outside to sleep will work. This breed very much wants to be with people. When I said couch potato I meant that literally. My dogs also begin to freeze if it goes below 65 degrees. Their fur is so short that I don't even have a problem with fleas. There is nowhere on them to hide so they just jump off. And if he is outside and bored or finds something of interest to chase during the night he will be gone in the matter of seconds or try to burrow a hole back into the house. The other thing you may want to remember is whether you fence him in or tie him out that he or she will have physically attributes that will make this difficult. Not only were these dogs used for fighting long ago but they were also used for pulling. I have seen these dogs pull well over 10 times their weight. I think the record is a 35lb dog pulled 2000 pounds so a tie out would have to be very secure and you should make sure that is well succeeds the weight requirement. Also with fencing most people need 6 ft fences. These dogs are jumpers and if they are determined (which is the ultimate dog trait that they poses - their heart or determination) to get to something on the otherside they can easily jump over a 4 foot fence like it was a curb. They say a bored pit/staffy/amstaff will get out of any fence. My friend actually had to modify an 8 foot fence so that the top angled inward. There was middle school behind her old house where the kids would come and play football and her dog was determined to play with them. I myself have a 6 foot stockade fence on the back wall and 6 foot vinyl fence onthe sides that is a series of verticle bars with no cross bars so they couldn't climb it. So far so good (knock on wood).

After all that I don't mean these things to sound like cons against them but more like precautions and what to be prepared for. Hope this give you some help or info or at least good bathroom reading
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