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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-05-2004, 05:39 PM Thread Starter
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Question how to find breeders?

i have looked in the paper around my area trying to find anyone selling american eskimos...I have not found anything about them...so i tried seaching the internet...but I have not found anything close to my area...I found serveral puppies for sale but they all say shipped by like american airlines...is this ok? I didnt know how good of idea that would be...plus i would kind of like to see the puppies before i decide to buy one but i found this one breeder ( http://home.comcast.net/~americanesk...log.html-.html ) and i e-mailed them about it. but it is also probably about a 6-7 hour drive from here and i didnt know how good a drive that would be for a little puppy. but we will probably be in that area the weekend of the 18th and we could check that out if that would be ok...I have never went about getting a dog through a breeder or anything so this is really new to me so any help or advice will be greatly appreciated....sorry for all the posts and questions but i really want to do this right....thanks!


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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-06-2004, 02:43 AM
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To find breeders, do a lot of internet searching and attending dog shows. I wouldn't always suggest the paper--a lot of poor dog breeders that don't quite know what they are doing advertise there. So, if you DID find one in the paper, be careful.

I know some members on Paw-Talk have had their puppy shipped to them (Scarlette), so maybe they will read this thread and give you advice on that. The only thing I can think of for that is you might have to wait a few months until the weather gets cooler if you plan on having a puppy shipped.

Finding breeders can be tricky, and it usually takes a lot of work to find a good one, and sometimes (unfortunately), they aren't always close to you. You should look into all the diseases Am. Eskimos are prone to and write them down. When selecting a breeder, you should inquire as to whether or not they test for these diseases and if there is paperwork to back that up.

Also remember that just because a dog costs a lot, it doesn't always mean it's WORTH it. Saying an animal comes from "champion lines" doesn't mean much these days. Depending on how many generations you want to go back, all dogs have a champion in their lines.

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Try www.breeders.net enter the breed you are looking for and your zip code. It pulls up the most local breeders to you.

I'll do some searching to see if I can find anything else for you.


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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old 09-06-2004, 01:49 PM Thread Starter
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thakns...i think i decided against the am. eskimo....justin called that lady and they are very expensive dogs cuz they are show dogs and i just want a pet not a show dog...and i know that that lady is probably a really good breeder though cuz she makes you fill out a questionare and all that to even see if she will sell you one and there are contracts and things involved....we found someone here who has 2 beagle litters that will be ready withing the next month so we are probably going to check that out....i will try that breeders.net thing to see if i can find anything else...thanks for the help


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I found Riley at puppyfind.com. She was the first dog I've ever had shipped. I was reluctant to do it at first because I like the puppy to choose me instead of the other way around but there is only 1 bull terrier breeder in Michigan that I know of and I didn't like the way the puppies looked...they just didn't seem built well. There was something about Riley's picture on the internet that told me I had to have her. She had a very confident, if not cocky look in her eye and I knew she was the one I wanted! I called the breeder and asked a bunch of questions and he seemed honest and was very polite. Whether or not he knew she was deaf is a whole different thread!

I'm not sure if I would have another puppy shipped to me again. I feel very lucky that I got such a wonderful, smart, friendly puppy like Riley. I did have a good experience with the airport and I feel everything was handled well....so I'm afraid I wouldn't be so lucky the next time around. I don't know.....I guess we'll see when the next time I get a puppy.


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am. eskimos are very expensive as any other dog from a breeder would be. i would really encourage you to go to Petfinder.com or some other site that is similar and try to find a pet there.

so are you getting a beagle instead of an am. esk?


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yes i am planning on getting a beagle...i decided $700 is a little too much cuz the lady only sales show dogs pretty much and i just want a pet not a show dog...i did the breeder search and found no other ones anywhere close to here...and i would really like to meet the dog before i get it....so we found some breeders in our area we are going to check out and see how that goes first...

just to add the main place we are going to look at beagles that will have them ready @ 8 weeks old sept 15 and oct 1 and they are $200 but there are a couple other places we might look into


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I'm not sure if I already posted this information on the forum, but before even considering a puppy from a breeder, make sure you find a reputable and responsible one to begin with. Here's a great list that I always give to people that are out and about for a new pup. Please follow it to make sure you find the best breeder you can find!:

--How knowledgeable is the breeder about this particular breed? Are they familiar with its historical origins? Can they educate you about the breed's disadvantages - especially genetic predisposition to health problems and characteristics like shedding, slobber, dominance, inter-dog aggression, etc. that may make owning the breed a challenge? Beware of anyone who sounds like a salesman and tells you that their breed has no disadvantages! Good breeders will play devil's advocate.


--Are the breeder's dogs screened for genetic health defects like hip dysplasia, eye disorders, hypothyroidism, Von Willebrand's disease, epilepsy, cardiac conditions, and anything else that is common in the breed? Can they provide you with proof, e.g., CERF and OFA certification and other relevant veterinary documentation? A good breeder will welcome your concern and be glad to offer the requested information - beware of anyone who is defensive! An excellent breeder will candidly discuss the health of their line of dogs, including the problems that have cropped up. Even good breeders can produce unhealthy dogs on occasion. The difference is that the good breeder is on a mission to find and remove those genetic influences from their breeding lines. The irresponsible breeder approaches health in a haphazard manner.


--Does the breeder have any old dogs on the premises? How long have their own dogs lived, and from what have they died? Beware of the person who sells off their adult dogs that are retired from showing and breeding. You want a breeder who loves the breed, not someone who loves to breed.


--How many breeds is this person breeding? Ideally, someone will have a special interest in only one breed (perhaps two). A Jack-of-all-Breeds truly is a master of none. How many litters does the breeder have in any given year? A good breeder may breed one or two litters, or may not breed at all for a year or more between litters. More is never better. Anyone who is producing a large number of dogs is probably doing it at the expense of quality.


--Are the breeder's dogs kennel dogs or house pets? While it is sanitary to keep large numbers of dogs outside in a kennel, you want a breeder who keeps their dogs in the house with the family. Breeders who keep their dogs in kennels may have temperament defects (like excessive dominance) of which they are not even aware. Puppies should be raised inside an active home to begin socializing them to a household environment.


--Will the breeder provide you with the names of their veterinarian and several past purchasers to serve as references? If given a choice, request pet references. Certainly a professional trainer will be able to handle a tough puppy, but what about a family with three kids and a cat? If the latter just loves the temperament of their dog, that speaks volumes. Ask the breeder about the homes that haven't worked out. There are bound to be some. Is the breeder honest that they made a poor placement, sympathetic to someone who underwent a life change that necessitated returning a dog, blunt that they produced a problem dog... or is the breeder bitter and accusatory about the person who bought the dog? Beware of the narrow-minded breeder who places blame on everyone but themselves.


--What kind of guarantees does the breeder offer? Most will offer a replacement puppy or refund of purchase price if your puppy manifests a serious genetic defect. Any responsible breeder will want to keep in touch with you and be informed if your dog develops health problems. The better ones may ask you to have your pet OFA and/or CERF screened when it is old enough (as your dog reflects on their breeding stock). Truly caring breeders will insist that you return your puppy to them if you are unable to keep it for any reason during its entire life.


--Does the breeder expect to sell you a puppy with strings attached? Concerned, responsible breeders will insist that you neuter your pet puppy as soon as it is old enough. They may have you sign a contract to this effect, or they may sell the puppy with limited registration (which means that if you do breed it, you cannot register the offspring). Remarkable breeders will pediatrically neuter puppies before sending them off to their new homes. This is a very good sign in a breeder, so much so that I would be suspicious of any breeder who does not insist on neutering.


--On the other hand, beware of any breeder who tries to sucker you into a breeding contract. They will treat you like you're stupid by flattering you and trying to con you into agreeing to keep your pet intact and breeding one or more litters, giving the breeder back one or more puppies from each litter. This is the biggest scam around. You get stuck with the expense and inconvenience (not to mention health risks) of keeping an intact animal and then providing the breeder with free puppies. If a breeder tries to talk you into this kind of pyramid scheme, find another breeder.


--At what age does the breeder send puppies to their new homes? Avoid any breeder who wants to send home a puppy younger than seven weeks. Many good breeders will release puppies at 8 weeks, but as long as the puppy is being actively socialized, it is arguably better to wait until 10 or 12 weeks.


--What does the breeder do to socialize their puppies? Ask them for specifics. Good breeders will have lots of toys and activities to which to expose their puppies. Mild stress is excellent for making puppies resilient later in life. A breeder who allows their puppies to experience different sounds, surfaces, etc. and meet different people is trying hard. A breeder who keeps their puppies in some sort of ultra-sanitary, almost sterile vacuum is doing the puppies a great disservice. Puppies raised in a kennel should be avoided.


--A good breeder will be very interested in who you are and somewhat choosy about whether you are able to provide an adequate home for one of their cherished pups. A breeder who wants to see your home, your kids, your spouse, your other pets, proof of your fencing, or talk to your veterinarian is simply trying to make sure that you will take good care of their pup. Do not resent this. Good breeders want to keep in touch with you after you've purchased a puppy and will be there for you with support and advice later on. Avoid breeders who take credit card orders over the internet and ship puppies to anyone who wants them. NO responsible breeder will sell a puppy to a pet store or other broker for resale.


--A good breeder will participate in breed rescue efforts for the breed they love. This is important. Anyone who scoffs at breed rescue or is not personally involved in it in any way is someone to be avoided. Often the best place to begin your search for a good breeder is to ask breed rescue volunteers for their recommendations.


--Good breeders think ahead and make reservations in advance for the puppies they will produce. You may have to wait for a puppy, but that's not a bad thing. Beware of someone who first creates puppies and then worries about how to disperse them.


--What does the breeder do for a living? Dog breeding should be an avocation. Avoid anyone who makes their living through breeding dogs! The corners they cut financially may be at your expense.


--Are the premises clean and orderly? Are the breeder’s dogs healthy in appearance? It can be a messy proposition to raise a litter of puppies, but puppies should not be wallowing in waste, covered with fleas, or otherwise appear neglected. Keep in mind that many longhaired *****es will shed their coats heavily during this time, so if the puppies’ mother appears a little ratty it is not necessarily inappropriate or unusual.


--Do you like the temperaments of the puppies' parents? Remember, temperament is genetic! Avoid puppies from *****es that demonstrate any aggression or shyness. Specifically inquire about possessiveness (food and object guarding), inter-dog aggression, defensiveness about being handled, etc. Accept no excuses for undesirable behavior. Don't be afraid to ask the breeder to demonstrate the *****'s good temperament to you.


--Has the breeder or will the breeder allow you to temperament test the litter? While puppy-testing is not especially predictive of adult temperament, it’s an attempt to gauge a puppy’s personality so that it can be best matched with a new owner. Ask the breeder's permission before doing anything to a puppy. No potential buyer has the right to do anything to a puppy which a breeder perceives as potentially harmful.


--Does your breeder respect veterinarians, trainers, groomers, breeders, and other peer professionals in the dog world? Beware of breeders who are paranoid or hostile towards other professionals. One cannot operate competently in a vacuum, and in general, good breeders are socially well-networked. They are liked, like others, and respect competent professionals in their field. A good breeder should make the effort the know other good breeders (especially of their own breed). It is important for a breeder to strive to improve their knowledge and understanding of their breed and submit to peer critique, even if it is not necessarily formalized (as in the show ring).

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The information (with some more important points that I did not include due to character limitation) can be found on the following site:
http://www.kateconnick.com/library/breeder.html
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