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I have a 6 1/2yr old Golden Retreiver named Baylee. As she ages, she has been getting more and more nervous. It is to the point of digging out of the yard, chewing through 2 wire fences and running away. She is very scared of loud noises and sudden movements now too. Unfortunatly, 2 wks ago she ran away and was caught by animal control and had to spend the night in the shelter. She has been much worse since. She was just recently to the vet and had a perfect health check. Hearing and eyesight are fine too. As long as she is inside she is fine. Now I have a White German Shepherd as well, and we also have 2 other dogs. All the dogs go outside together and Baylee is the only one reacting this way. Has anyone had an experience like this with their dogs? Are there any herbal remedys that may help her? The vet did mention a drug she can go on, but we both think she is too young for that. She is not familiar with herbal stuff. She did suggest finding out from people who show their dogs, what they may give their dogs while at the shows.
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Hi! There are a lot of reasons why your dog might be acting this way...but it can be hard to pin point. My dog, Harlie has problems with nervousness and anxiety too. She is very afraid of people she doesnt know, she shakes, growls, and cowers around when they talk to her...First, I would have to reccomend reading a book called The Dog Listener by Jan Fenell, I know I know, no one wants to have to read a book to figure it out, but it is a great book to read and gives many many tips and life changes that you have to make to make your dogs life the best it can be, if thats what you want. In the book there are chapters about nervousness, seperation anxiety, and desensitizing your dog. Your Baylee sounds like she definatley needs help dealing with loud noises and sudden movements...you need to desensitize her to not be afraid of them...one big thing is this: when she gets scared from hearing a loud noise, do you comfort her and cuddle her and tell her that its ok? It may seem like the loving thing to do, but what you should really do is just play it off like that noise wasnt a big deal, dont comfort her, dont cuddle her, it may take a lot of effort on your part to not do this, but once your dog realizes that its not a big deal to you, then she will realize that it shouldnt be a big deal to her. So I really think you should read the book, it has so much useful information in it.

You also asked about herbal remedies, I go to an herbal specialist for myself, and when I am there I always end up talking about my dogs, and Vicki, the doc/store owner, recommended that I give Harlie I have an herbal supplement when people are coming over that she doesnt know, or if we are going on car rides, which tend to stress her out also, it isnt made for animals, but my vet ok-ed it, it doesnt make her tired or act different, and thats why I like it, Its called Rescue Remedy, for anxiety, it is a bottle of drops that you put on your tounge, the bottle calls for about 4 drops for a human, so I give Harlie 2. I have noticed that she is calmer when she takes it. She is less nervous and just happier, eventually I plan on not having to use it, as we are working on desensitizing her to strangers that we let in the house. I dont know what kinds of health stores are in your area, but I would recommend going to one that has dealt with animals before. Vicki works with animals and show dogs, and humans, and has solved my health problems, so I trust her with my animals and me.


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Well I work for a homeopathic vet and Rescue Remedy is great for dogs with anxiety!! It really calms them down! For severe nervousness and a ntural remedy if you have a homeopathic vet near you ask for some nerve tablets. I used to have to give them to my dog Nacho cause he would run a mile at the smallest thing, even a car starting up, or someone saying hello to him, and these tablets helped him greatly!!!
Distraction is aslo a good thing. So if your know your dog is gonna get scared start going through basic training with him to distract him. If you can get him to pay attention to you then it's a great start!!! but I'd be looking at some natural remedies to help him get through it for now...it will make life more comfortable for all!

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Rs, thats awesome that your vet uses it! Im glad to hear it!! And ya know what the best part is, I can keep it in my purse, and if I get stressed even I can take it! So it is great for all of us...so far I havent needed to use it, but ya never know when ya might! Ha ha...thanks for sharing Carmen.


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Thanks for the info! Now I just have to find a place to get the Rescue Remedy. Can I get it at a health food place? We have no homeopathic vets in my area.
Baylee ran away again last night. She wasn't outside 5 minutes. Luckily as I was heading out to find her my cell rang and she only made it down the street. The backyard is fenced, and if I tie her she panics by digging and hypervenitlating. Aggghhh!!!
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I know I am so very late coming into this thread...

I was just wondering - is Baylee spayed or intact? If she is not spayed it could be influencing her behavior.

What is in Rescue Remedy? I use plain old human variety Valerian Root capsules (from the pharmacy shelf) for Jack (also a Golden Retriever). He displays a lot of nervous behavior when a thunder storm is approaching and during the storm itself.


I also talked to my vet about his thunderstorm/gunshot/fireworks (loud repeated noises) issues and he suggested Valium or Ativan. He's a BIG Golden and (techs please fact check me here) from what I was told, dogs can tolerate a higher Benzo (class of drug that Valium and Ativan, etc belong to) load than humans can so 1mg of Ativan is probably undershooting the dosage but I would rather play it safe - He tolerates it extremely well - it doesn't knock him out at all - but it does calm him down - quiet the extreme panting, drooling and shaking. Has anyone else ever used this kind of drug for their dog? I have never made a habit of giving it to him - only choosing it in extreme cases and very infrequent at that.

I have to look into the Rescue Remedy!

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Sorry Melissa I missed your post!!! Rescue remedy is great for humans and animals!! you can either put four drops into a bowl of water (doesn't matte rhow much) or you can put four drops straight on their nose and you can repeat it every 15 minutes!!! You can't overdose so it's not biggy...you just shouldn't need any more than that so why waste it right?
Linda I don't know what is it made of but my vet has been my vet forever and it's all we've ever used!!! We never used any drugs as such for anxiety in my animals, except Nacho who was on valium at the end and I still think high doses of his herbal nerve tablets calmed him down a lot more!!! My mum has used it to and it calmed her down!!
I don't know what I'm going to do when he retires...he is the only homeopathic vet in the whole area and at 65 I know his working time is limited....I might have to take my animals to see him at his house when he retires!!! I'm seriously going to need to invest in a course to learn about all of this myself!!! Sorry getting off track here!

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