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Has anyone watched this documentary? Opinions??
I watched it the other night and while MOST of it wasn't news to me,it was a little disturbing.


It can be found on YouTube.It is 6 parts and each one is 10 mins long.I can post the links here if anyone wants.However there are some disturbing scenes in them,so watch it at your own risk.


However not ALL breeders or show people are like that.
And they should of at least mentioned that.I used to know a woman who had a great dane and a doberman that she showed (she was a friend of a friend - but I often talked to her) and she didn't see her dogs are just show items.They got the best of care and I think she may of done a little bit of breeding too,but not excessively.




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Arrrggggg....thats just mean and cruel.Esp. the dogs who was on the ground crying.

I personally don;t think dogs should be shown its not like the dog cares whether or not its a champion showing is all for the owner.

I think if we're going to show dogs we should be showing them the way their supposed to look not bred to look they way we think they should if they makes sense.

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Yeah.


However thats another thing...showing/breeding are supposed to be for bettering the breed or keeping the standards right.Hence why mixes are not shown,because they have no standard.


But if you look at bulldogs and pugs (for example) many yrs ago,they do not look the way they do now.







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However thats another thing...showing/breeding are supposed to be for bettering the breed or keeping the standards right.Hence why mixes are not shown,because they have no standard.


But if you look at bulldogs and pugs (for example) many yrs ago,they do not look the way they do now.


Exactly. The show ring is supposed to show the proper example of the dog. A healthy and well build dog.

But as one of the judges said in the first part of the documentary.The GSD you see in the ring is the proper example of a GSD even though it was various problems esp.with walking, where as the working GSD is build to work,is healthy, and walks normally. To me this should be the proper example of the GSD.Not so weird walking dog that to me looks like some of them could to in pain or uncomtferable(sp) walking like that.


At least some owners are doing all they can to help their pets and not just throwing them on the streets.





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Yeah,the GSD was walking weird and I hardly see that as a good example.I am no judge,but when I see a GSD out somewhere,I do noticed if it looks good or not.


And dogs with problems like that are just going to have more issues later on...hip dysplasia,arthritis...etc!




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OK as I watch on into this it is seriously ticking me off even more.

Ridge back Dogs
The ridge is actually a spinal deformity which can lead to other serious health problems in the future.
Should a puppy be born without this deformity cull them. Now thats just stupid.And there is a crazy lady in the videos saying ' oh well these new young vets aren't going to put these puppies to sleep because its not right to put healthy puppies to sleep so we go to the old vets' ummm...HELLO stupid lady it is wrong to put down perfectly healthy and happy puppies because they don't meet the stupid requirements.AND in the KENNEL CLUB book it says cull them. Stupid losers.

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I know! And the one that said "it's not a ridgeback if it has no ridge"...thats BS.If a ridgeback and a ridgeback have puppies and one is born without a ridge,it is STILL a ridgeback!


Culling was done alot in the old days.
These days you can still cull by spaying or neutering and NOT killing.
However in a dog forum I am in,there is a huge debate on culling and sadly alot of people agree with the killing part of culling.I think it is wrong to kill/euthanise healthy puppies! Like I said,spaying and neutering is a form of culling,and a much better choice if your gonna do it at all.




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I wanted to add...keep it civil.

I have seen the debate about this documentary go really,really bad in another forum I am in.





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Yeah.

Things like this just make you want to have all the breeders,kennel club people etc sit down and have them be yelled at through bullhorns in their face if thats the only way to get the REAL facts through their thick FRICKEN sculls and their little tiny peanut sized brains.


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OOPS what???


When I mean keep it civil,I meant via other members here.
Cause if it is anything like the other forums,you will have 50/50 on opinions and sometimes people don't respect someone else's opinion if it different then their own.And fights break out.Thats what I mean.But as of now,it is just you and I!




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When I mean keep it civil,I meant via other members here.
Cause if it is anything like the other forums,you will have 50/50 on opinions and sometimes people don't respect someone else's opinion if it different then their own.And fights break out.Thats what I mean.But as of now,it is just you and I!

I thought you were talking to me about my comments such as stick a bullhorn in their face and yell at them.

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I thought you were talking to me about my comments such as stick a bullhorn in their face and yell at them.

But yes PEOPLE KEEP IT CIVIL OR ELSE
Hahaha...nope.
I didn't mean that.I would do the same! Hahahaha!
Except it prolly wouldn't get through their close minded,thick skulls.




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Hahaha...nope.
I didn't mean that.I would do the same! Hahahaha!
Except it prolly wouldn't get through their close minded,thick skulls.
To their itty bitty tinny tiny potato brains.





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HAHAHAHAHAHA!
You seriously made me laugh out loud!




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