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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old 10-15-2004, 02:21 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation Pit Bulls Banned!

--- its a sad day in ontario-a grouping of dogs the government has
decided are grouped in their opinions under the pit group including
staffs,staff bullies, bullies,pits and even bulldogs
they are banning them in ontario.

they claim existing dogs will not be harmed and will be allowed to
live out their lives. HOWever they are avoiding the obvious-what
happens if there is a change of hands in owners or all those shelter
pits-obviously if shelters cannot adopt them out they have only one
other option.
Shleters need to consider their part in the blame game too in this
area becuase for yrs now dogs coming in are often labeled and assumed
pit mixes if they even remotely may have it in them,with them being
so high in population shelters are quick to jump to this conclusion.
They have also been responsible for repeat attacking dogs being re-
adopted out in a cpl of controversal cases,just making the whole
problem even worse.
Many dogs are mis- labeled by shelters,owners are now calling thier
vets that believe their mixes are not part pit for a panicked re-
assment of breed to contradict what shelters have labeled them where
adopted from as,without a breed assment in writing the city will not
allow such changes on registrations.

The government ignores the postive high quality breeders,the show,fly
ball and agility qulaity,this will destroy any livelihood of these
postive owners and breeders.

The government and media would like everyone to forget that in 1999 this breed was voted and listed in the top ten for best family pets.

More importantly the high population of pits and like breeds in
ontario has painted a picture,with the help of media frenzies ,that
is completely incorrect. stats are taken as per bite incidents NEVER
has the media or government sat down and admitted that when
calculating percentages pits and like breeds actually have a very low
bite rate compared to numerous other breeds. On average the bite rate
is actually an extremely low percentage.

What ever breed that is used and becomes most popular next will again
suffer this bias judgements once again. It can be any breed,but it
will happen once the breed gains popularity and becomes the most
populated dog.It might take a few yrs but it will happen.

Bad owners should have been the focus and target if anything as we
all know,this is far more of an issue then the breed itself because
these same ppl will just go out now and get a diffrent breed they
will have the same way and the same thing will repeat with those
types of owners again. punishing all pits and like breeds and owners
is just a disgrace and o so wrong.

It will be a sad day in ontario for anyone who loves the breeds being
labeled and anyone who loves animals period.

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old 10-15-2004, 04:25 PM
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I agree it is wrong to put the blame on the breed itself. Sounds like they got their statistics all jumbled up and they don't really care to straighten them out. Its sad... the public has to learn to keep the media from pulling the wool over their eyes.


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post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old 10-15-2004, 04:57 PM
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BULLDOGS?? What kind of morons ban bulldogs? The typical English Bulldog is about as easy going of a dog as you can find. I could not get my old Bulldog to be mean to people (believe me...I tried to get him to attack my older brother plenty of times). There is a law that is being passed in a nearby town (that is technically in Iowa) about banning pitbulls. I guess I wish they would make people take mandatory training classes instead of just banning the whole breed because some people are idiots. You think that even stupid people could raise non-dangerous dogs if you give them the right information at the start.
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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old 10-15-2004, 04:58 PM
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How sad.

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wow that is devastating APBT are banned in Aus...it is illegal to breed them. Once they are alive however they have a right to life and are not to be put down for no reason (if it attacks it gets put down automatically). You have no idea how many staffy x's we have in at work that look exactly like pit bulls. Funny that isn't it? However we can get away with it cause it is only the APBT that is banned. Staffy's are a very popular family dog at the moment in aus so I can't see them going too far with it.
I agree mandatory training classes....but then I think that should be a rule for EVERY single dog, not just a couple of breeds. It totally sucks that they can do this.

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Exclamation Our Last Resort For Pit Bull Ban!

Well guys..it seems like Ontario has a big problem on its hands..Michael Bryant has announced that he wants our pitties OUTTA this province for good.. however, with that being said, he can't do squat until the law is passed in parliament...SO...there is still hope..WRITE WRITE WRITE...VOTE VOTE VOTE!

Write in to the MPs please..I beg you guys..every letter, email, phone call will make a huge impact...here's the contact information:

http://olaap.ontla.on.ca/laompp/daCurMbr.do?locale=en

heres another site in case the above doesn't load:
http://leonarddomino.com/mpp_contact_list.htm

And here are some polls that are going to be kept track of...meaning they are quite important... ESPECIALLY THE FIRST ONE!: Please vote NO to banning pit bulls!

http://www.pulse24.com/Plugins/Web_...ll-question.asp
http://www.canada.com/toronto/index.html?rfp=dta
http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawacitizen/index.html

Please help out as much as you can and crosspost this message to everyone in every forum you are a member in..it is a very crucial time for Ontario right now..please help as much as possible!
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There was already a thread about this exact subject. I will merge them.


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Have to repost the first poll link as the one I posted earlier was wrong..here it is!
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We had a pitbull owner problem where I live this last summer. Notice that I say owner, not dog. The dogs were allowed to run in packs and were taking down local livestock, sheep to be specific. There was even a finger pointed at my brother's pit and our neighbors, until it was proven that they were out at the lake on that particular weekend. I live in a very rural area, and unfortunately the only way to make these irresponsible pet owners take responsibility was to put out notice that all dogs would be shot on site for a while. It did make the bad owners a little more careful about how they cared for their dogs, but what a sad way to have to do it. The laws here are the owner of the dog in question is required to repay the owner of the livestock, and some of the sheep where champion breeding stock. It saddens me to think that the monetary threat may have been the only reason that these owners took the time to ensure that their dogs were properly restrained. The thing is, is any dog can resort to pack behavior, not just pits. The fact that these are lap dogs by day make them that much more dangers at night, because they have no fear of humans. It is truly, truly sad when a pet owner does not take the time and love needed to care for an animal so that situations like this are not needed in the first place.
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I am wondering what will happen to all the shelter dogs. I was looking at the listing at the THS today and there are so many listed as PB, or PBx's. Where will they go if you are not allowed to adopt them???

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