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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 11-17-2011, 12:59 PM Thread Starter
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Small dogs, food

Hey all,

My partner and I just adopted a small dog, likely a terrier mix, from the local shelter. Her paperwork says she's about 5 years of age, but I'm not sure I believe it; she acts older, her teeth are quite worn, and her energy level, at least to me, indicates that she might be a bit older. We adopted her straight from the shelter, so her history is really unknown; it's just a guess.

I've never had a dog under about 50lbs, so I feel like I'm a little unsure of the needs, specifically nutritionally, of a small dog. My dog Roy, a 70lb chow/Newf/something mix eats Fromm's duck and potato, and he loves it. He has allergies and we've always had such great luck with Fromm's, so I just decided that we'd feed Olive the same thing. The kibbles are small, and from what I've read, that's a big concern, but overall... is there something else that I should be considering?

One of the primary reasons that I'm not sure that this is right food is because she seems to have a lot of tummy upset. In part, I think this may have to do with being crated during the day, and having just general separation anxiety. It seems as though she works herself up into such a state of anxiousness, and then the rest of the night it's difficult for her to eat and drink without vomiting.

When she settles, food and water stay down just fine, but it normally takes a couple of hours. So, my problem is twofold at this point - I'm working on the separation anxiety as best as possible, but nutritionally, should I be feeding her something that is formulated for small dogs?

Basically, any advice you have is welcome. I've just ordered her a playpen so we can see if perhaps the crate, the small space, is just too overwhelming, but I am concerned that the food might be an issue, too.

She's only been home for about a week - she came home last Tuesday night, so it may be that I just need to be patient. But either way, I thought I'd write to see if there might be other things to consider.

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Could you buy a small breed formula of fromms? Evo and wellness core are also very good options but I would definitely look for a size specific diet.
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This might help you its a thread i had started about dog food about a week ago for the small dog that we adopted from a shelter http://www.paw-talk.net/forums/f9/do...ight=dog+foods

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You may just be having issues with the dog's adjustment. If you are giving her a different food than what she is used to it will take some time for her system to adjust to it. I personally have found that a small amount of kibble mixed with a small amount of canned food with no byproducts and a bit of rice seems to work very well. I have a border collie mix that has a sensity stomach and this combination has worked very well her
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Small dogs don't need anything special nutrition-wise. It's probably more related to her transitioning to a new home. Feed less food (it's SO easy to over-feed small dogs, especially if you're used to larger ones!) and consider doing two small meals instead of one.

Is that variety one of the grain-free Fromm foods? I think it is but if not, switch to grain-free and see how it goes. Some dogs are super sensitive to grains, one of mine included.




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Hope you can try to introduce him the raw diet, which has more benefit and healthier..

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Make any changes to her diet slowly!! She's obviously upset by the switch in a new home and diet. Maybe boiled chicken and brown rice may calm her stomach until you can feed her plain dog food without issue. I agree, small dog formula's are not that different than regular formulas. As we discussed in the other thread nibbler posted the link to, many breed specific and age specific foods are a hoax and not necessary. As Sasami said, just feed less per meal and she shouldn't eat herself sick.

I hope she transitions well Pics would be great!
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It may be that they fed science diet at the shelter, we do and from what i can tell it has 0 meat whatsoever. Switching to a food that has a lot of meat in it upsets their stomachs.

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ick, it's true. Shelters usually rely on donations and company sponsers. A good way to people's hearts (for companies) is to say they sponser shelters (so, please buy our food kind of thing)...
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It is good for the shelter they get each back for $14 for a 40 lb bag of food. but... its not good food. Its not even one they sell its lower grade than their low grade food they sell

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Slightly off topic but i never got how people think its such a good diet its crud
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advertising advertising. Vets sell it so it must be good, shelters use it so it must be good... Read ingredients!!

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Agreed ... Evo , Blue Buffalo , Blue Buffalo Wilderness, Grain free Innova, Nutro all at least decent foods. The first 3 being my preferences however I have no experience with the brand you use I would recommend a small breed food ainly because the pieces are smaller and easier to eat.
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A lot of kibbles I seen when buying new kinds for Coco were small for most dogs. Then a bit of water could soak them into a moosh if they were still too big. See those new milkbones? They're SO tiny!
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I agree, most normal kibbles are small enough that little dogs do just fine eating them. If kibble size is a concern, you could always soak the food in water like Purple-Hops said or feed the wet food version of the same food, if you didn't want to switch foods.


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