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Question some questions......

ok first let me say, yes i know y'all arent vets. I'm trying to get others opinions and maybe learn from other's experiences.

having said that. Dugan has been having "hot spots" or accute moist dermatitus. he's been thru pills, sprays,etc.....they said it probably was caused by anal gland impaction. they did those. i can't tell a difference.


They thought they heard a heart murmer a few weeks ago but decided it wasn't one. Last week he had all his shots and the vet thought he heard a murmer. he been "coughing" too. they said it was either bronchitis or a heart thing (can't think of the name). the tech came back with a $400 "wellness plan recommendation" consisting of- a high def. digital radiography,a blood test, and an ECG arrhythmia screen. ISn't there a simpler way to find out if its bronchitis?

and my other wondering is- is it typical to "deworm" dogs that are 14?? he hasn't had it done since puppyhood, so we were a little supprised when this vet just up and did it.

we are in the process of seeking a second opinion from his other vet.

and has anyone ever used Aveno lotion or gold bond powder for itchy pooches??

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post #2 of 11 (permalink) Old 09-11-2006, 03:54 PM
 
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I use children's benedryl for shadow when he's all itchy and it seems to help. one of my old vets told me to do that. I also use a hydrocordisone spray from wal-mart that helps a little. The last time he had a really bad one (half of his face) the vet gave me a cream called animax cream (nystatin-neomycin sulfate-thiostrepton-triamcinolone acetonide cream usp) that dried the spot up really fast. It's only like $14 a tube too. I used it when he was starting to get one on the top of his head and it stopped it right away.
Good luck. Those hot spots can be expensive sometimes. Sorry I can't help you with the rest of the stuff. Never exprienced them, but with a golden retriever I've come to know hot spots very well!
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If you brought in a stool sample or they did a fecal exam and saw worms they would worm your dog... any dog is susceptible to having worms or parasites (it isn't just a puppy thing).... this is something most people have their dog checked for at their annual exam.

Gold bond and Aveno are formulated for the human body not your dogs... I would not use it unless it is under the supervision of a vet or it could make his skin condition even worse.

IMO I would get a second opinion .... if it was hot spots it should have cleared up with the antibiotics.... If you could get a picture of these "hot spots" it might be easier for some of us to give you a suggestion of what it could be or if any of us have dealt with it a written description could get you wrong answers....But, with your description (from here and your other post) I am highly suspecting mange.... PLEASE GET A SECOND OPINION ASAP, because if it is mange depending on what type it is and how bad it has gotten, it can be cleared up relatively quickly. Doing home remedies (and what your current vet has suggested) has not worked so far, so you need to get him seen by a specialist ... a lot of veterinary schools have specialists do you have one close to you? If not I would call your vet and ask for a referral to a canine skin specialist. If you live in a small town you might have to drive a bit, but IMO I really think this needs to be looked at ASAP and not a home remedied, Your dog has been sick for over a month now it makes me sad to think of a dog being all itchy for that long of a period of time. GET A SECOND OPINION FROM A PROFESSIONAL!!! I would do a little research on-line about mange and what it looks like... you might find some similarities to your dogs condition.
Link to other page with this same dog, dealing with this same issue:http://www.paw-talk.net/forums/showthread.php?t=35973
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oh yeah, he is definitely getting a second opinion soon.

he had mange years ago (nice other doggie shared. ) and it was all over his body. THis is just locallized to his bum area and back of the legs. That's why they said it could be from anal gland impaction.

it makes ME sad, and somewhat annoyed (at the vet) to know
he's been like that for a month or whatever.

I will say again, it comes and goes with the weather too. last few days it was HOT and sooo humid and he was itching like crazy. last night and today it wasrainy and cooled off....less itchy, by quite a bit! thats the thing that stumped us....it's off and on....

i'll get some pics and be back later. thanks

ps- i dont get why you linked me back to my own thread.....??

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Hmmm sometimes stress can cause an outbreak of mange especially if they are having any issues with their immune system... maybe this would explain why on hot days he is worse than on cool days... could be hot days stress him out more than cool ones?

I hope you can find someone that can treat him soon... It must be horrible for you to watch him going through this... I just don't understand some vets you would think this would be something he would want to get to the bottom of? Have they suggested doing any skin scrapings?

I linked for other readers not for you, this way they can read the full story from the begining and be able to give you information based on all the information you have given so far.

Hope he feels better soon!
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yeah, i mean, 4 of the vet's have seen him and have suggested that just recently as a second round flared up. it had actually gone away for about 4 days...when the weather was cooler. then back it came and they gave him some pillz again (that work wonders), and suggested that. at a "yikes!" fee.
that's why we're getting him back with the old vet (further away) quickly cuz they arent as spendy.

it's been quite the ordeal and quite draining; sleep-wise,financially and mentally.

but, i was just wondering about "quick fixes" (as asked about in my top post) till we get the skin sample. soo... thanks for the suggestions and advice.

he's doing good today. thank goodness! we got to SLEEP last night! lol

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I have never had a dog with hot spots but my dog does get little sores from allergies, I had to get a second opinion for just that, the first vet said it was ring worm ( I had seen ring worm and it didn't resemble it at all) and the vet gave him allergy meds and it was gone, so I am a big fan of second opinions...

I hope he is ok, I will keep him in my thoughts

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http://www.vet.utk.edu/clinical/sacs/dermatology.shtmlUniversity of Tennesse Vetrinary Clinics Dermatology page or try this direct link to the skin vet here:http://www.utskinvet.org/or the U of T vetrinary college page http://www.vet.utk.edu/ Hope this is of some help to you.

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One more thing I thought you might find helpful:
Here is a list of the Vetrinary Dermatology specialists in Tennessee:
Linda A. Frank, MS, DVM
Professor of Dermatology
University of Tennessee College of Veterinary Medicine
C247 Veterinary Teaching Hospital
2407 River Drive, SACS Dept.
Knoxville, TN 37996-4544

Keith A. Hnilica, DVM, MS
Assistant Professor of Dermatology
University of Tennessee College of Veterinary Medicine
C247 Veterinary Teaching Hospital
2407 River Drive, SACS Dept.
Knoxville, TN 37996-4544

Margaret K. Phillips, DVM
Veterinary Dermatologist
Animal Allergy & Dermatology Referral Service
5837 Nolensville Road
Nashville, TN 37211
(615) 831-2898
(615) 831-9128 (FAX)
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Funny this all sounds like my mom's one kitty. He flares up when the air is on though. They checked him for ring worm and other things. Now they are saying it's from diabetes! I swear he is allergic to something. She is now having her vents cleaned out and a special filter put in her heater/air conditioner just to see if that helps him. She has gone through a fortune trying to fix him and he still flares up awfully. I understand you not wanting to spend a lot of money unless you know it will help.
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