OK, Saying we are very, very rude no matter what is very, very rude. I also saw that thread and thought it was unfair too, he was doing his best to save the turtle but people were being a bit critical. We were not being rude to you, but you dont answer our questions and we try to ask them as nicely as possible but there are some things we have to say or ask for the welfare of the animals that are never going to sound nice. I am sorry you feel that it was a very bad idea to submit to this forum, there are people on here that could give you valuable advice. I am sorry about your old turtles, after re-reading our question about what happned to them I realised it came of as a bit rude but it wasnt meant to be, we were just curious, good luck with your new turtles when you get them!