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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-29-2006, 10:50 PM Thread Starter
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California, dog killers

California is trying to pass a law that calls for killing all bull dogs on sight.
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Does anyone know of any petitions against this?
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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-30-2006, 05:06 AM
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All I get is the logon page for MySpace. I'm not a member, so I can't see whatever you posted.

Buit I do have to say that I am very skeptical that any state would just pass a law that calls for killing a dog (or any animal for that matter) on sight. I think this is just an internet rumour, a joke, or a gross misinterpretation of something.

I'd find an acual newpaper article on it, or perhaps something more offical than a MySpace page to confirm it before I get all worked up about it.

And, internet petitions are a waste of time, everyone knows they can be electronically manufactured with millions of fake names in a few seconds. Even paper petitions aren't all that effective at influencing legislators. They know that most people will sign anything if it's presented to them in the right way.

If you want to have an effect on upcoming legislation, write real letters and mail them, or FAX your letter and call the legislators. They're sensitive to people, especially consitituents, that take the time to really write something, not just click a mouse a few times. That kind of feedback means the issue is important enough to the voter to actually influence their vote.

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naw, i dont think its true. i am a member of myspace and on there alot. and A TON of stuff like that posted is complete crap


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I live in Cali and there are no laws like that in my area, they do tend to put bulls to sleep after a shorter time but thats all I have seen or heard about

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I believed. by "on sight" they mean reposses the dog and take them to a shelter to be euthinazed. Here are the reasons why I believe this post that was sent to me.
1) I've heard of this before
2) this breed has been banned in some states and are put down when found
3) a friend sent this, I don't know if she forwarded it or made it herself
4) It says vote no on SB 861. Actual viable proof.
5) http://www.defeat861.com/

So I think a dog lover went a little overboard, they're trying to ban the breed by forced sterlization, not kill them off.

Also, I intended to sign an actual petition not an electronic one, if they cared what people from other parts of the u.s thought.
You can do this by printing it out the offical petition and then going around getting people to sign as well.

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I guess I don't really see a huge problem, certainly nothing worth the alarmist headline. Nothing in that link you posted talked of euthanizations, they are talking about sterilizations. That's quite a leap to the "kill on sight" title of this thread.

Maybe I'm not reading it correctly, but it seems that they are trying to repeal the right of towns in CA to require sterilization (didn't say euthanization) of breeds they designate dangerous. It seems to me that any town should have the right to determine their own local statutes, regardless of whether we agree with them. ...that's just the risk you run in a Democracy. I'm not a fan of breed specific legislation, but I still think towns and municipalities should have the right to work democratically if they so choose.

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post #7 of 9 (permalink) Old 05-30-2006, 10:32 PM Thread Starter
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Yes yes, I've already written that the law was about forced sterlization. I found this out by looking up the specific vote code..thing.


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I guess I don't really see a huge problem, certainly nothing worth the alarmist headline. Nothing in that link you posted talked of euthanizations, they are talking about sterilizations. That's quite a leap to the "kill on sight" title of this thread.

Maybe I'm not reading it correctly, but it seems that they are trying to repeal the right of towns in CA to require sterilization (didn't say euthanization) of breeds they designate dangerous. It seems to me that any town should have the right to determine their own local statutes, regardless of whether we agree with them. ...that's just the risk you run in a Democracy. I'm not a fan of breed specific legislation, but I still think towns and municipalities should have the right to work democratically if they so choose.

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i'm a believer in the "it's how you raise them" theory - i've known people on both sides of the fence, some who bully them and others who baby them, and because of that their dogs are totally different animals. it is fact that some breeds have more "killer instinct" then others, but there has to be other factors that bring it out. i worked with a man who'd raised and bred pit bulls for 30 years and his dogs were as loyal as labs, and they were such babies! but my grandparents had a neighbor that would let his pits roam and anytime we saw them we would go inside - those dogs had mean written all over them, one actually attacked one of my grandfather's cows and the cow kicked it and killed it, then the other dog attacked the cow and badly injured her - he probably would have killed her if my grandfather hadn't come out of the house with his shotgun

i believe all dogs should be kept in check, even the most loyal dogs can be vicious if something sets them off. they are very powerful creatures and should be treated as such
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I completely agree =B
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