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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-04-2006, 08:50 AM Thread Starter
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Interesting article about treating pets as "pets" or as "humans of another species".

http://www.slate.com/id/2096577/

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post #2 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-04-2006, 09:53 AM
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Someday, my Piggy will be a real boy . I swear, he thinks he's a defective human.

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post #3 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-05-2006, 07:58 PM
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My Frankie is positive he is a little boy. I swear he holds the fact that Belle knows she is a dog against her!
The funny thing is that when my husband and I look at Frank we don't see a dog but our baby. I guess that doesn't help much.

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thats really interesting. thanks for bringing it to our attention


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That's a great article. I agree wholeheartedly with the author. I think people who begin thinking of their animals as "little humans" are seriously losing perspective in their relationship. It's the first step down the road to a whole different type of abuse. One much more subtle, yet just as destructive to the animal.

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That's a great article. I agree wholeheartedly with the author. I think people who begin thinking of their animals as "little humans" are seriously losing perspective in their relationship. It's the first step down the road to a whole different type of abuse. One much more subtle, yet just as destructive to the animal.

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post #7 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-07-2006, 01:30 PM
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Well to me guardian doesn't suggest that the animals are being called human, it more suggests that they aren't objects that can be kicked around, if we truly "owned" our animals then we'd be able to abuse them and treat however we feel like.
Animal lovers know you can't mistreat an animal, but people who aren't and aquired an animal anyway see themselves as "owner" and therefore can and do do anything to their poor animal, and are pretty surpirsed when and if the law gets envolved.
So what I'm saying is that the term gaurdian is being seen as different defintions, I guess its all how you view it, but there's no need to jump to one assumption, to one view, and then before anyone else can make up their mind, they read a baised article and see baised opinions.
Let me sum this up for you.
Guardian doesn't tag the animal as a human, just as a creature who needs you.
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That's a great article. I agree wholeheartedly with the author. I think people who begin thinking of their animals as "little humans" are seriously losing perspective in their relationship. It's the first step down the road to a whole different type of abuse. One much more subtle, yet just as destructive to the animal.

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Completely agreed I see the problem all the time and often times that's when I get called in because the animal doesn't respect who is the human any longer.

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post #9 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-09-2006, 12:27 PM
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Someday, my Piggy will be a real boy .
Funny- we say that about our rat terrier Hogan all the time. It has partly to do with the fact his tail looks like Pinnochio's nose, though LOL


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Being a good "guardian" is a matter of teaching your pets manners. It's almost like children. If you don't teach manners, then they will think they are the boss. My buns are more than just pets to myself and my husband, we even jokingly call them our children, but they know who's boss and all learned the word "no" in their first week of being with us. They learned real fast not to bite the hand that feeds them (so to speak).

Okay, so I've got a mischevious husband and a few buns...


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post #12 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-12-2006, 07:46 AM
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The fishes and turtle think I am just the food lady but to the fuzzy ones I am also the petting lady.
I agree that pets and children both need boundaries for thier on well being. If you do not set boundaries it confuses them. They need to feel secure and boundaries do that for them. Otherwise they will think they need to take care of everything for themselves and for you. Its the pack leader mentality that Cesar talks about. Did anyone see that South Park episode with Cesar? It was so funny and somewhat true!

mommy to
Tyler - kitty
Oscar - water turtle
Bean - kitty
Frankie - dachshund
Belle - dachshund
Oliver - bunny
Ophelia - bunny
Penelope - bunny
Teddy - bunny -ok I have given up on 4 of a kind and am willing to settle for 2 pairs.
8 fishes - RIP Little Guy and Greta
and Tabatha - October 11, 2006 - rest in peace our sweet angel bunny
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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old 07-21-2006, 07:38 AM
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I completely agree!

mommy to
Tyler - kitty
Oscar - water turtle
Bean - kitty
Frankie - dachshund
Belle - dachshund
Oliver - bunny
Ophelia - bunny
Penelope - bunny
Teddy - bunny -ok I have given up on 4 of a kind and am willing to settle for 2 pairs.
8 fishes - RIP Little Guy and Greta
and Tabatha - October 11, 2006 - rest in peace our sweet angel bunny
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