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:) Hi! I am a supporter of Cesar and his cause but many you will find are critical of his methods. I tried training my dog using his methods but I failed in some aspects bc of Coco's un-medicated anxiety would trouble him too bad. But I found his method of leading the dog, rather than "training" the dog works well. I do like his methods. We will be training our next dog on Cesar's model.

Do you have a dog?
 
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I'm not a fan of the show at all and have seen many dogs seriously messed up due to people trying his methods. He's very, very out-dated, unscientific (Seriously, alpha rolls? It's been known for ages that wolves don't even do that), and physical (I prefer not to use physical corrections with dogs because it can escalate things...besides, that's not real control IMO). Besides, he doesn't even have credentials...he's basically a guy who decided to train dogs and he became a celebrity because he appeals to people.

I can post links and videos if anyone wants to know more.

I prefer positive reinforcement training and have gotten better results from it :). If I tried Cesar's methods with some of the fosters I would have probably gotten bitten, anyway :lol:.
 
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I don't find his "shh" things or touching to be negative at all :/ If you want negative, look up Brad Pattison. o.o
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Those things are technically negative but what I'm talking about are alpha rolls, pinning dogs (I don't watch the show but saw this just when flipping channels!), leash pops/tugs, kicks (yes, it has happened...check YouTube), and overall rough handling.

I don't like Brad Pattison either. But at least he admitted that he was wrong and is supposedly incorporating more positive reinforcement (I don't know how true it is).

A couple of trainers I like are Patricia McConnell and Victoria Stilwell. I'm horrible with names so I can't remember any more right now off the top of my head :lol:.

I don't think any trainer is perfect and I don't follow any one style exclusively. But Cesar and similar trainers really don't sit well with me. And to be perfectly honest, I find the whole "pack training" type thing to be exhausting. I want to enjoy my dogs' company and have them trust me and enjoy mine. I don't want to worry about ridiculous things like not letting them win tug-o-war, eating dinner before them, not letting them run outside before me, etc. It's fake science, anyway, as wolves do not behave like Cesar has people believe. He uses a mixture of outdated and outright false information.
 
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Yeah I don't even watch the dog whisperer much but the brief amounts of it I have seen I couldn't believe how rough he was being with some of the dogs.

I would never do things like that to my dog. Why would you want to treat them negatively when you can get results from positive reinforcement training while at the same time build up a great bond with your dog? I want my dog to trust me and enjoy my company, not fear me.
 
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