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Would you move to another state where your pets are legal if they became illegal?

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When I look at that list the first thing that came to my mind was the man in a NYC subsidised housing apartment who was keeping a Lion and an alligator
It was already illegal to have exotics like that in NYC the new law passed was for the whole state and not all of NY is city. Just more proof the laws don't prevent anything. It just made it possible to punish him for it.
 

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A lot of those animals that were on that list should not be allowed to be pets anyway....I mean seriously, do you think a kangaroo is going to be happy living in someone's backyard?
Horses are bigger than kangaroos but people keep them as pets! They just get an appropriately size "yard". I know pet roos who are very happy as well as pet horses.
 

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You realize a major reason a lot of those species were banned is just because they haven't been domesticated for very long and we don't have a firm grasp on their health issues and also what abnormal diseases they may be prone to that could also effect humans.

Don't get me wrong I do agree that you should be aloud to keep whatever pets you want but I think that getting a license to keep a big cat, or a venomous snake, or a first generation marsupial that may still have recessive diseases is a good idea. We wouldn't have domesticated animals if someone hadn't started it first. If someone hadn't breed all the dog breeds or tamed the cats. I love bangels, and snakes and mice and chinchillas and I would LOVE to have a sugar glider some day, but if the guy next door to me had 50 venomous snakes I would want to know that he knew what he was doing with them.

I think you should be able to keep exotics so long as you know how to care for them. Maybe let the vets sign off on you. If you have a good history with your cats they can say "yeah these people are responsible" take it to the courthouse and get a license then get whatever pets you want. Of course I do also believe there are plenty of people who don't need to have any pets, who are too irresponsible. That is why I am in favor of this idea.
 

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I saw a cool bumper sticker today; You can have my guns...bullets first. Ha. That's how I feel about guns & my pet prairie dogs.
I agree there are some animals that should not be allowed, for obvious reasons. I have mixed feelings about prairie dogs in the pet trade. I think anyone who is looking to get any pet should only do so if they do their homework first. For example; my momma wouldn't let me play with snakes when I was a kid, because she is deathly afraid of them. So when I got married & moved out, I got a couple of king snakes. They turned out to be escape artists, so I got a bigger snake, one that couldn't get lost so easily. I have had my boa for 26 years now. After I got her I read where they can live up to 40 years in captivity. I asked my husband, hey can you see me sitting in my rocking chair when I'm 59 holding B.C.? Haha That rocking chair isn't so far away now. I'm already a grandma.
 

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I don't get why people want new exotic animals...
There are SO many animals out there allready, so why is people always need to get something "new".
I think it's because people want's something special, and thats just wrong!

I'm very happy that big cats, girafs, zebras (and other african animals like that), wild forms of dogs (hyena, wolf and so on), plattapus, apes, venomous snake, seals, bats and so on are illegal here in Denmark.
Most people don't know how to take propor care of these animals, and if it's a threatend species, it's eaven more stupid to let normal people keep the animal (like tigers)...

You shouldn't be able to keep what ever pet you want, because some pets, normal people just can't take care of! And some people don't understand this, and just get a pet because it's "cool".
It's just too bad if you are a responsible pet-owner who wanted something new and exiting...!
 

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These are tho only monkeys allowed in Denmark.
I think this is fine. Honestly, not many people can take propor care of these small monkeys, and eaven less know how to take care of bigger monkeys/primates.

Eaven thoug I think monkeys are very cute, and we have some people who take very good care of their monkeys, I wouldn't mind if they got illegal too..
I simply hate it when people get these types of animals, and they have a short and bad life, because people don't read up on them first....
 

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I dont think these laws are out to punish you...the situation is getting so out of hand that a law must be set...people should not be able to own whatever animal they want
There are pacu fish in the lake Hartwell, sc
There are oscars in florida...all bc some irresponsible ppl decided to get rid of their problem..I shutter to think where ppl dump their piranhas..its getting out of control...who even gives these pet stores the right to have and sell these tank busters? If you look at a lot of the people that go to pet stores it's usually on a whim and they dont have a clue as to what they are getting themselves into.."ohhh thats a purdy fish..I want it" is their mentality...or "ohh..ive never seen that before..that would be fun to have"..I see ppl getting a 10gal aquarium and a bag of knife fish all in one day..then they ask the pet store staff questions on how to set up their tanks..there has to be a law put into place..these people are messing up our ecosystems..I dont want to take a swim in a local lake and have to think twice as to whether or not someone dumped their pet piranhas in it..it would be another thing if I was in south america

I believe you do need permits to keep certain animals..like rattle snakes and crocs..I would understand keeping them in a laboratory or perhaps being a licensed rehabilitator in or around their natural habitat..otherwise I dont understand why you would want to keep something that can take your life in a split second..how is that even qualified to be a pet? Is it empowering to own something that has to power to kill you without hesitation or people around you? It would be difficult to tame them if even remotely possible..and you put everyones lives in grave danger around you..is it worth it?
 

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I saw a bumper sticker once that said, "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns." That applies to this. Also, if more people become owners of these animals, like Sushi said, then they become more domesticated. If more people have the animals, the better chance they have in surviving their probable native habitat destruction, ya know? One of the reasons why the crocodiles of Florida have been making a comeback is because a company breeds them to use their skins for boots and such, but they legally have to release 5-7% or something of what they breed into the wild to support what they supposedly take. I think this should be applied to everything...but not of course in the making of purses, ya know? I think everyone who owns something exotic or complicated should be required to get a license. Not a really complicated one of course, but something that shows that not any yahoo can go into a pet store and buy an animal thinking they can take care of it.
 

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I beg to differ

No,every wild animal needs to be free.That is the way they were from the beginning.No owner can give their pet freedom,even though there are more dangers in the wild.I think that perhaps people could still love them in the wild,that is if they had the pet and then let them go.You can't turn a fox or wolf into a lapdog,and a leopard or lion into a pussy cat.You remember that woman who's neighbor got mauled by her pet chimp?Both for the people's sake and the animal's,this is why.
 

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No,every wild animal needs to be free.That is the way they were from the beginning.
So, arguably, everything except cats and dogs?
 

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Thank you for proving Godwin's Law in an eight year old thread.

So, since I keep snakes, and haven't had a live rat or mouse in my home in over seven years, by your argument that makes them pets?
 

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I don't live feed my snakes because there is absolutely no reason to. Just like many, many responsible reptile keepers.
 

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I don't agree with live feeding at all, but the only label I give those people is irresponsible. Especially those who think it's cool enough to post online. It hurts everyone who happens to keep snakes as pets, and encourages opinionated people to come on to forums making sweeping generalizations about the reptile keeping community. I wouldn't have a problem with a ban on live feeders. Bans like that already exist in some places. Just like I don't have a problem with licensing requirements for exotics, as long as they're sensible and attainable, and not policed by ignorant bureaucrats.
 

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I used to get into discussions with other snake owners about it all the time. That is part of the reason I don't participate in online reptile owner forums much anymore. You can only have the same argument with so many people who don't want to listen so many times, before it just gets tiring. Most of the people in the reptile community that I do regularly talk to realize that reinforcing the feeding of f/t rodents is the only way we're going to take the keeping of reptiles to the next step of "legitimacy" with the general public.

I do education programs with my snakes, so I have had all manner of reactions from all manner of people... but the hope is, regardless of whether they like snakes or not, or approve of the keeping of them as pets or not, that they walk away having learned something.
 
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