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Zippy Chickenshorts
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Well.... ever since we got Husky from a tiny little baby he has not been quite the *tame-pet* rat; which is probably why he has had such a lack of mention from me in most of the threads and posts I've posted.
The thing was that when I got him, it was because of his beautiful colouring and Arthur came with him as a friend because I thought it would be a good idea. Well, I loved both of them, however, Arthur turned out the better rat. Not only could Husky not stop pooping, but he was nippy and cheeky and he really didn't like being handled. I decided to start handling him as much as I could and do loads of work with him while he was young so that he would be really tame when and as he gets older. My plan worked okay, but he was always the quiet one, shy and secretive in a way lol. It all kicked off when Husky began chewing everything. And since we started giving him more attention when he began chewing, he decided to begin starting more problems....
well, he still hasn't liked being handled and he hates being grabbed. When he is out in the room he runs off if I try to get him. So a little while ago now I realised that Husky was beating up on the others, I did split up big fights and stuff and I keep getting woken up by really loud squeaking in the middle of the night and I kept getting up to sort everything out, but nothings changed :(
I bathed the rats today because they were smelly and once their fur was wet their skin was more visible and I noticed bites on Arthur, he only had 3-4, maybe more, but they were big and nasty! Well, when I thought he was bad, I saw Rayray and he is literally covered in big bites, on his neck, bottom, back... everywhere! I already new Pepper was getting beaten up aswell because he is the smallest and Husky.... he is clear of everything, no bites or anything! It was obviously him doing the dirty work.
So because Arthur is better I put him back in with Pepper and Rayray, in which he made himself very happy at home again reunited with his buddies, than I cleaned out Arthurs spare cage and put Husky in there. You never geuss what...... and I'm TOTALLY confused, Husky started bruxing! I mean, I didn't expext him to be upset as such, but it's the fact he was actually bruxing thats got me in a pickle. I can't even let Husky out to play on the floor with the others because he will just chase them around the room all night trying to fight them! I wouldn't mind, but he doesn't even want MY attention and I don't know what to do :(
Not only am I worried about Pepper, Arthur and Rayray, but i am worried about Husky, I just don't know what to do with him.
Do I try to re-Introduce them? Will neureting *definatly* help? I need your advice, everythings going pear shaped at the moment and I feel like I'm getting stuck in a hole and digging myself deeper and deeper! Thank you for reading all this if you have, I am honestly trying my best, but things keep proping up which seem to be becoming harder to prop down again, thanks in advance xxxx
 

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AND what else could go wrong do I say...
Oh yes, there's more to the catch than thought. Husky has now worked out how to open his cage. Well, I put a bin on top on the door.
also, he was in the cage all of 5 minutes before he had chewed through solid plastic, I put duck tape on it. Now I'm hopeing he can't get out, but he is still attacking everything in his cage now he can't get out of it AND he's nippy now too, I think I'm doomed, huh!
 

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Yeah thank you both :)
Husky started nipping from an early age, but he grew out of it. Now he is in a seperate cage he is begining to try and nip me through the bars of the cage because he is getting upset. I noticed him to start fighting before I went on holiday, but I never thought it was as bad as it is. I've only just noticed the bites on the others backs and I want them to heal up first before I re-Intoduce them. If the introduction doesn't work and it goes back to normal than I will have to start looking into neutering him, but for now, How on earth do I keep Husky happy? I had to put him in a different room last night so I could sleep because he was chewing on the bars and getting at the bin and I kind of feel sorry for him and kinda scared right now :(
I think he has gone past puberty and he does bite for nothing somtimes, aswell as when I try to play with him because he gets fustrated. He is 5-6months old now and certainly grown a lot since when we had him lol.
I went into the room I'm keeping him in for now to see how he was getting on and he doesn't look like he has eaten anything and his water bottle had been pushed off the cage. Husky was asleep, but as soon as he saw me in the room he was up again. I'm thinking of trying to connect another cage to the spare one to give him more room, maybe tha will calm him down?
What is testostarone basically? I've heard of it, but never looked into it before. I'm going to ring my vets to ask how much neutering will cost and what they think I should do about the situation. Compaired to how good Arthur was in the spare cage, Husky is mad of his head, I mean, Arthur didn't try to get out once, he just sulked about the fact he was away from his friends.
I just want to take Husky out and give him a cuddle and let him know everythings going to be okay, but Husky is not a cuddly rat and I feel like it's my fault! Thanks for your help, It's given me some things to think about. Seeing what Husky is capable of is now a bit scary to see if you know what I mean, I definatly wouldn't want to live in the same cage as him LOL.
Thanks again, I'll keep you updated. xxxx Luvs ya to xxxx
 

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oh, okays, thank you :)
Husky has seemed to have settled down now, but he is still being a bit nippy and trying to escape.
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LOL, your Ninja was such a sweety!
So, do you think that if I give Husky more space than he will be happier on his own because he has terratory of his own and if I let him out than he might warm up and bond to me more because I will stay in the room and be there with him so maybe he will start coming to me some more?
He has eaten and given up trying to escape now, which is good! He is also a lot calmer than since he was first put in.
Thanks Lisa xxxx
 

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Thank you Claire :)
The cuddly toy is a good idea and what you said came true..... Husky does want me more than the others!
I got him out on his own today in a place where he hasn't been in the house before and he was all over me! He wanted to stay close and have a love, hide in my hair, climb on me, all the stuff you'd expext and it felt so nice to have a rat that has never been close to you, actually want me!
I thought after that, maybe it would be a good idea to get one of the others out one by one to see how Husky reacted to them and how they reacted to him. First out was Pepper and Husky acted as if Pepper wasn't even there! It was a quick sniff of each other and than... well.. nothing, just like pepper turned into thin air! I think thats because pepper is the smallest and he can't really do anything to Husky so he is not a threat at all if you know what I mean, but when they are in the cage, Husky still beats up on him.
Next up, Arthur. With Arthur there was a bit of aggressive grooming to show dominance and also following him around, but nothing much.
Lastly, I got rayray out. This was very different from the other reactions, Husky wouldn't leave him alone, nipping and grooming, slightly pushing around and in the end Rayray came up to my trouser leg and was trying to climb up like he was asking me to put him back in the bedroom. Also, Rayray is the one covered in bites.
I decided it would be a good idea to see how they got on altogether as a group. Once again Husky wouldn't leave me alone until Rayray was out of reach, once he was gone he started nipping Arthur and it was the same with Pepper, just like he wasn't there.
So, I put all the rats back and husky was alll over me again!! I think its part jealousy, part dominance and also attention seeking and he only seems to want one to one interaction with me.
Do you all still think it is testosterone or do you think something else might be going on to?
I am ringing the vets tomorrow and ask for their advice, see how much neutering will cost and ask if they recommend anything else.
Thanks again xxxxxx
 

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Thank you very much Anya for taking your time to say all that because it has opened my eyes up some more :)
You have not offended me at all, you've helped my out and thats all that matters ;)
Since Husky has left the cage I've seen a lot more of Rayray. I always thought it was Rayray being lazy because when it was time to come out and play he always stayed in the cage and went back to bed, however, now Husky is somwhere else Rayray is coming out to play!
I understand what you have siad and after thinking about it it really does make sence. The only thing is that I don't know how to keep him occupied in his own cage because if I don't leave something over the cage door he will just open it and run off!
If you think it's a good Idea, than do you think I should buy Husky a bigger and better cage just for him, to keep him in by himself and to get him out of the spare cage?
Thank you for your help once again :)
xxx
 

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Thanks Claire, your always so supportive and great! :) xx
And Thanks Anya, your help and your self-knowledge has been a huge help!
Also, thank you Lisa, I read the links and they've helped, also the other things you've said has helped to. xxx

Anyways, I've made up my mind that I'm not neutering Husky. I don't think it will help him that much and I also think that I wont be as satisfied with what I get for the money I spend and over here it's expensive, probably over £100, though, if I did think it was gunna help than I would.
I'm going to leave Husky to settle in the spare cage and get used to being on his own and I'm also holding of any play dates until Husky has finally settled into a home of his own. Once he has, I will try another Introduction and if that doesn't work out than I'm going to buy him a cage of his own and leave him on his own from there on.
If Husky is already happy on his own without the others, and no play dates, and no intro - I may just go straight ahead and let him stay on his own, with occational supervised play dates.
I have thought about this, and yes, I do think I have enough time on my hands to keep a lone rat happy and give him what he needs.
Thanks everyoe for your help, I've appriciated it! :D
 

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Husky's hissing at me now :(:(
I'm used to him hissing if he is in the bath, but for no reason, thats never happened. Now I feel like I'm back at square one, when I finally thought I was getting somewhere :(
Husky did escape today.... again. He pulled the top half of the cage of the bottom (the cage came with no latches to hold it down)
Husky must be strong! He only wondered into my room and wasn't hard to gt back in the cage. He's out in a different room right now.
I scared Husky might hurt himself if he doesn't stop his determination and I really don't want that to happen 'cause I'll end up feeling like it's my fault.
I only need Husky to wait for a bigger cage for two more weeks. I'm doing extra work to get more money, just to get everything I need and Husky isn't helping my mood, especially when I'm trying to help him!
xxxx
 
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