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I contacted the vet who did Apollo's neuter about getting Moki Neutered ... They havent gotten back to me about it.

But is it worth it? He seems so sad and terrified being alone. And he cant live with girls un altered and he can never live with other males.

I am trying to make the best choice for him.
 

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Why cant he live with other males? How high is the risk of surgery for him? Is it higher than normal? and from my little bit of experience with rats.. they MUST have social interaction to live a long happy life.. maybe he will live a content life alone.. but I think he will be happier with other furry friends... But if the risk of surgery is too high.. then you have some thinking to do.
 

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Mice are not rats Male mice will kill each other ... i also have rats Yuki and Apollo ... Mice are different.

Its the same risk as other small animals I am just worried ...
 

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Mice are not rats Male mice will kill each other ... i also have rats Yuki and Apollo ... Mice are different.
Yeah you kinda didn't specify....

But in short, there are multiple ways to neuter nowadays. Some vets will do traditional under the knife neuters. However I heard (when I had rats) that some vets refuse to do that but instead give the males a shot. It is some chemical that shrinks the testes till they are no more (or completely defective.)
 

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Moki's picture is in my sig though ... So I didnt feel I needed to specify ... And my vet does traditional Neutering.
 

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Is your vet good enough to do a mouse neuter? My vet does them and I know of another vet who has. Male mice are more like rats and actually bond with their owners more than the females do generally. He will need a lot of mental stimulation in his cage and a lot of interaction with you.
 

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She did great on Apollo's neuter. And i know they bond more but when he is so terrified he is pooping in my hand something is wrong :( He wont even use a ball or go on his wheel anymore :(

I asked the vet if she would and they didnt call me back.
 

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Why is he so scared all the time?
 

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No idea :( I am very gentle with him but we cant even get him to take treats :(
 

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Were you able to before? Has his personality changed?

I wouldn't use a runabout ball for a mouse either, its terrifying, they cannot get away from "predators", cannot smell them either...
 

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i have a male rat, runty and he was desexed so that he could be placed in the same cages as the girls, everything went smoothly... apart from the cost!! haha the price to desex him was the same as a kitten.. however he's still active and boisterous as always so no effects in personality, i also have two mice that live in the same cage, so don't know about these comments regarding mice not being able to be in the same cage, i have been warned about it in the past but have had no issues with my two.
 

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i have a male rat, runty and he was desexed so that he could be placed in the same cages as the girls, everything went smoothly... apart from the cost!! haha the price to desex him was the same as a kitten.. however he's still active and boisterous as always so no effects in personality, i also have two mice that live in the same cage, so don't know about these comments regarding mice not being able to be in the same cage, i have been warned about it in the past but have had no issues with my two.
Very rare and often 2 males will live together then turn and literally rip each other apart. Usually one ends up dead. You are very lucky, but its not the norm at all.
 

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I no longer put him in the ball

and my vet is willing to neuter him and has even done hamster and gerbil and of course rat neuters so he should make it :D and it is the same exact price as for my rat boys.
 

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Very rare and often 2 males will live together then turn and literally rip each other apart. Usually one ends up dead. You are very lucky, but its not the norm at all.
yeah well i've always had male mice together, never any problems, yes they have their little squabbles but as long as i keep them at all times separated from females i have no issue. i do however introduce at birth/ infant stage, so that will definitely have an impact.
 

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Still it is FAR from advised. Their health comes first and I adopted an adult plus why even risk it?

Anyway BACK ON TOPIC ... Moki is getting Neutered
 

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Good luck Moki!!! Your picture is so cute.. Hector says.. "Sorry 'bout losin ur nuts my little friend... but all will be ok!"

All our love...
 

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LOL Its ok Both Moki and Yuki are going in for surgery. its just going to be a little while. But shouldnt be too long with a steady job ... about two weeks ...
 

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When I had my mice I didn't know any better and had two littermate males live together.

They were together from day 1 and given to my boyfriend who took excellent care of them. They were fat, healthy, happy til one day he found a skeleton in the cage, and the other mouse dead as well.

They had fought so badly that one was killed and eaten, and the other died of fatal wounds. He had them together for MONTHS before this occurred.

Not trying to be scary, just saying that "I haven't had problems so far" is a false sense of security.
 

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I had the same experience so there is NO way i will ever risk that again
 

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Yeah.. it's pretty scary to think you're caring for something as perfectly as you can then they suddenly do something like that.. ><
 
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