[Fishy]

:confetti:
i think the girl is on the left in this picture lol

girl in my hand and boy below

girl again

boy. notice the chip in his ear

Running together lol

 

[Vladina]

They are beautiful mice! So sweet! But you have a boy and a girl...she will get pregnant if you keep her and the boy together?

 

[Fishy]

i know. im breeding them

 

[Elliriyanna]

its really not good for her to have lots of litters 2- 3 in her life ( spaced out) is the best to do if you insist on breeding them

 

[Vladina]

Oh, you are breeding them. As the other poster said, it is not good for females to have babies repeatedly. Are you using this pair of mice as breeders for feeder mice for a snake or something??

 

[Elliriyanna]

its kinda sad since mice are SO sweet people dont think about it. Wouldnt you feel bad if a dog was made to produce babies constantly. We hate puppy mills so why is it ok to over breed mice?

Also I am willing to bet they are brother and sister or at least related

 

[Vladina]

Agreed. Not only is it cruel, but it is not needed. From the snake people I have talked to in the past, live feeding is not neccessary. If someone on the forum wants to show pictures of their feeder mice, then they are on the wrong forum.

 

[Elliriyanna]

This is not an attack just PLEASE consider what you are doing. I understand that snakes need food but these are not pets if you are using them to produce feeders. also one male and one female is kinda mean males ALWAYS want to mate. you could keep the male by himself in a ten gallon keep three females in the 20 gallon and introduce a female to the male when you are low on feeders. There are many ways to do this better if you want to do it. Also more females will help her raise the babies.

 

[Jess]

They're cute!


She had another thread of feeder breeding, and I'm 99% sure she plans on humanely euthanizing the babies first. IMO, raising your own feeders is better for the mice involved since they will have attention and a humane death (assuming they will indeed be well cared for), instead of living in a factory and potentially being killed in violent ways. I'm not sure if either of you have visited reptile stores or shows/expos, but the conditions those mice are kept in are much MUCH worse than this. And remember, if you have any kinds of carnivorous pets or if you eat meat yourself, there are plenty of cute innocent animals dieing for that purpose too. Feeder breeding is much less cruel than those industries are.
Just sayin'.


I agree on getting multiple females and housing the male seperately though.

 

[Fishy]

Oh, you are breeding them. As the other poster said, it is not good for females to have babies repeatedly. Are you using this pair of mice as breeders for feeder mice for a snake or something??

im homeschooled. so theyre a school thing, but im also going to feed their babies to my snake, maybe try and sell a few and keep at least one as a pet.

 

[Fishy]

its kinda sad since mice are SO sweet people dont think about it. Wouldnt you feel bad if a dog was made to produce babies constantly. We hate puppy mills so why is it ok to over breed mice?

Also I am willing to bet they are brother and sister or at least related

one is from petco one is from petsmart so i doubt theyre brother and sister

 

[Fishy]

This is not an attack just PLEASE consider what you are doing. I understand that snakes need food but these are not pets if you are using them to produce feeders. also one male and one female is kinda mean males ALWAYS want to mate. you could keep the male by himself in a ten gallon keep three females in the 20 gallon and introduce a female to the male when you are low on feeders. There are many ways to do this better if you want to do it. Also more females will help her raise the babies.

how are they not pets just because im breeding them? and this does seem like an attack imo

 

[Elliriyanna]

Just the toll it will take on her body will extremely shorten her life span.


The better way to breed is a female trio in the 20 and keep the male in a ten and when you want to breed one put her in with the male so they get time off and space between litters, and you have more control. You rotate the females breed one then another then another then back to the first. This is much easier on their bodies.

Also I dont consider breeders pets because you will have to kill their babies so you cant bond with them and the babies and kill their young

 

[Fishy]

They're cute!


She had another thread of feeder breeding, and I'm 99% sure she plans on humanely euthanizing the babies first. IMO, raising your own feeders is better for the mice involved since they will have attention and a humane death (assuming they will indeed be well cared for), instead of living in a factory and potentially being killed in violent ways. I'm not sure if either of you have visited reptile stores or shows/expos, but the conditions those mice are kept in are much MUCH worse than this. And remember, if you have any kinds of carnivorous pets or if you eat meat yourself, there are plenty of cute innocent animals dieing for that purpose too. Feeder breeding is much less cruel than those industries are.
Just sayin'.


I agree on getting multiple females and housing the male seperately though.

thanks theyre really nice i never knew mice were so nice
and thank you for explaining all that, lol. i know i wouldnt have been able to explain it that well

 

[Fishy]

Just the toll it will take on her body will extremely shorten her life span.


The better way to breed is a female trio in the 20 and keep the male in a ten and when you want to breed one put her in with the male so they get time off and space between litters, and you have more control. You rotate the females breed one then another then another then back to the first. This is much easier on their bodies.

Also I dont consider breeders pets because you will have to kill their babies so you cant bond with them and the babies and kill their young

why cant i bond with them?

 

[Elliriyanna]

i'm not saying you cant I'm saying Its VERY hard on a female to have a litter and its hard to watch someone you love go through that and because you love them you love their babies.

 

[Nibbler]

i think its a personal choice if she wants to breed them or not. im very proud of fishy thou for doing research before breeding and even posting on here to learn more. Your new mice are extremely cute. good luck with them.

 

[VanillaRat]

Whoa guys...don't jump to conclusions. I agree with Jess.
And this member mentioned in another thread she was breeding for snake food. Ya'll ASSumed that she was going to back breed,and I didn't see anywhere where she said she would back breed.

Also I dont consider breeders pets because you will have to kill their babies so you cant bond with them and the babies and kill their young

That is a little harsh. I know several feeder breeders who LOVE and do indeed bond with their feeder breeders...even as far as naming them. They even keep them as pets when they retire. Of course not ALL feeder breeders are this way,but there are some who are and assuming someone won't bond with their animals because they plan on breeding for food...wow...close minded much?

To the OP...
I would get at least one more female mouse,that way you won't back breed the girl you have now.

 

[Storyseeker]

Whoa guys...don't jump to conclusions. I agree with Jess.
And this member mentioned in another thread she was breeding for snake food. Ya'll ASSumed that she was going to back breed,and I didn't see anywhere where she said she would back breed.



I know several feeder breeders who LOVE and do indeed bond with their feeder breeders...even as far as naming them. They even keep them as pets when they retire. Of course not ALL feeder breeders are this way,but there are some who are.

To the OP...
I would get at least one more female mouse,that way you won't back breed the girl you have now.

I usually don't do 'me too' posts, and I know we have some very tenderhearted members who will not agree at all, but...I agree very much with this.

 

[Fishy]

Whoa guys...don't jump to conclusions. I agree with Jess.
And this member mentioned in another thread she was breeding for snake food. Ya'll ASSumed that she was going to back breed,and I didn't see anywhere where she said she would back breed.



That is a little harsh. I know several feeder breeders who LOVE and do indeed bond with their feeder breeders...even as far as naming them. They even keep them as pets when they retire. Of course not ALL feeder breeders are this way,but there are some who are and assuming someone won't bond with their animals because they plan on breeding for food...wow...close minded much?

To the OP...
I would get at least one more female mouse,that way you won't back breed the girl you have now.

yeah im going to get 2 more. i had no idea that they would help and all that. it was never mentioned anywhere but then again i wasnt really searching for that.