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Help me, so apparently one of the 4 mice i got was not a male. Little frankie is a girl wait till her human form finds out he'll be in shock. but we now have 6 little pinkies about the size of my pinkie nail in a temp cage with mom. i don't know if she is already preggers again but probably But i need info on the babies, we should be getting a permanent cage tomorrow nothings open now where i am.

When do i have to try and sex them myself to separate the boys from the girls and mum

Can i introduce the boy babies with the other boys

WTF How come mum still looks and sexes as a boy according to the fun mouse website

I know she is the girl cause i was blood on her hinny before see was cleening herself and the pups off.
 

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If she is in with the male take him out immediately! They can get pregnant within 24 hours of giving birth. Make sure mom has lots of food and has a piece of toilet paper or construction paper to make a nest out of. You will have to separate the babies at 4-6 weeks...5 would be good. You have to separate the boys from girls because if they mate they can have deformed and unhealthy babies. If you can take pictures of the babies when they are older, we can help with the sexing. I don't know why your girl is sexing wrong. When she is a bit less stressed you could take a picture from the back and I could take a look and see. Sometimes it is hard to tell.

Personally I would not introduce the baby boys to your other boys because they can fight till death. You could let them interact, maybe SUPERVISE as they sniff each other out, but even that can be risky. You can keep the baby boys in a tank together for a short amount of time before they will need to go to a new home or be separated from each other. When you get rid of them, don't sell them to the pet store unless you have to. They won't take good care of them. Try to sell them as pets.
 

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Alright i put in toilet paper in their temp tank.(i'm going to a store after school today to get a real cage) i don't know how long she was in with the boys after the babies were born. I'll see if i can take some when they get a little older.

Ok i won't introduce boys but that would mean i need more tanks and can't do that so i'm trying to get people to adopt the babies. mom says no more than two tanks.

Anyone in CT willing to take some babies if they make it. They will most likely be silver or black and tan

Edit: Um she keep stepping on the babies and is putting the nesting materials over the babies instead of under them is this ok?
 

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Sometimes when the babies are born at night its hard to tell, once my mouse was accidentally double bred. You will just have to wait and see. And no rush on pictures...its hard to tell until they have fur anyway :)

If I was closer I would definitely take some babies off of your hands. I think its great that you are trying to adopt them out :) Since you are only allowed 2 tanks, you could make a plastic bin cage while you need it with a screen lid taped on our something.

Its fine that she is covering the babies. She sounds like a good mom!
 

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You got some good advice!

Yes,make sure the males are seperated from her.
5 weeks is when the babies should be seperated by sex...otherwise they will breed with eachother and mom.

It is not a good idea to put the boy babies in with the adult males,because male mice are very territorial and will fight to the death.And it is hard to get male littermates to live peacefully...so adding newbies to a group of already established males is a disaster waiting to happen.

Offer the mom some high protein food,like bit of egg or chicken or a bit of cheese.She needs the extra protein and nutrients,otherwise she may eat her young because she craves the extra protein.

Good luck.
 

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alrighty thanks guys for the info. we have her set up in my file bin thing with a mesh over it. we have a friend who is going to give us an aquarium to use but i may not move them over till they are a little older because ever move stresses mum out.

Would extra nuts give the same protein as eggs and cheese. and does it matter the type of cheese.

her nest has become quite the little building project. it actually looks kinda cool. the only part I'm not liking is the babies keep squeaking. the more they squeak the more i want to kill them but the less i want to kill them. if that makes sense to anyone but me.
 

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Yes,some nuts can be given to her.
I used to give mine bits of chedder or mozarella cheese.
Believe it or not though,not all mice like cheese! :)

Squeaking is normal and a good sign.
 

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No,baby mice cannot breed before 5 weeks.
They are not weaned until 4-5 weeks.
 

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The fun mouse has some great advice but I alway sepreated my males and femaels at 5 weeks my rats are 5 weeks to almost 6 a couple days after they are 5 weeks. I have asked the advice before and they were vrey crule to me. and it was before I go mice I asked ofr some information on them and boy did they go off on me.
Soem times males testies dont drop when young right away adn can apear to look liek girls. i gently push the back ends to see if anything pops out not hard but enough to see. But ushally you can tell by a row of what looks like little bumps were the nipples are on the girls boy wont have them. some people take a non toix perminet marker and mark the males or femaels so they know.
I love black and tans I have 4 now. I dont have a silver if you lived closer I woudl get one. Black is a favorit color of mine but so is silver. Females should not be breed till 3 months or 5 months. Depending on the size of mine dependis on when they breed. Ushally they look like they swallowed a golf ball when prego but some can look jsut liek they are a little fat. How many did she have. Male mice can halp take care of the litter. When I fist had my 2 I was told to leave the male in which I foudn out later was bad advice but he helped take care of them. Soem of my males have fought but they seem to really like the babies and clean them when i intro them I think becuase they know they are young an are very submisive. But to many males can fight. Soem times its to much room or not enough. Boys are tricky. Not all males that are syblings or fatehr adn son will get along. I am jsut lucky with my males and I intor them and let them play in a bin or play area for a while on nutral gorund long before i house them together. And some I have had to seperate. I jsut rescued to feeder mice and they had babies onteh way home. they were ready to have them when i seen them but had them on the way home so not shure whos is whos. But for feeder mice (they dont get socilized ot well) they are very frinedly and cuddly the moms. THere are 14 all together. 3 that apear to be black and tan and the rest are either albinos or they could be cream colored. not shure. Since the moms dont knwo me that good I wont mess with them till there eyes are open like I do with the ones that do know me.
Wish you the best of luck
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If the mother is used to you,then yes...you may take them out.The sooner you handle them the better.They need to get used to your scent now.I always handled my baby mice on day 2 to check for milk bands! The mothers didn't mind and I never had a problem.
 

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ok i checked and it was really hard to tell. but i think we have 4 girls and one boy. one little unknown was dead. I am really uncertain about my sexing attempt though. Is there anyone in ct willing to come check. they won't stay still long enough for a pic i'll try in a couple days when i try and sex again. looks like there will be 1 silver one and the rest have black on them
 

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Is it possible for someone to help take the picture while you hold the tail up? I would love to see pictures of them though! Also about mom trying to bite, it could be a possible sign of double breeding, but also just that she is stressed. One of my mice accidentally got double bred and she nipped at me for the first and only time in her life. Good Luck! :)
 

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at about a good week old when they have some good hair you'll see the teets on the grils. Males some times take a little longer. Out of 14 I have 13 left I seen the moms munching on a baby yesterday. yick but they proably since they were feeder rescues not properly feed before and one coudl have passed they will somes eat or kill a week one that has something wrong that we cant see. Or if it dies it puts what ever they need back it there body icky yes but benifical to them. Although if I find one that is dead I quickly remove it. You can give her eggs, and dog biscets for extra to help keep her body up and help her with her milk. here is my site on it you find at the bottom of the home page the link to the American Fancy Rat nad Muse assosion AFRMA they have lots of great stuff and they should have a thing on sexing. and stuff you can feed your mommy mousr to help her out while she is nursing a weaning them later.
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I understand. How old are they now? DO they have fur? Are there eyes opening yet?
 

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ok i checked and it was really hard to tell. but i think we have 4 girls and one boy. one little unknown was dead. I am really uncertain about my sexing attempt though. Is there anyone in ct willing to come check. they won't stay still long enough for a pic i'll try in a couple days when i try and sex again. looks like there will be 1 silver one and the rest have black on them
When they are just getting their fur in and have smooth belly fur,you will be able to see "dots" on the females,which are nipples...or will be nipples when they are older.Males do not have these.That is an easy way to sex them when they are young and just getting their fur.
 
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