anyone?

 

Not sure, how old is he? Maybe its a medical condtion?? Im sorry I didnt even quite understand the problem TBH

 

ok lemme try and phrse whats going on differently.

1. we crate him at night and when we're gone
2. we punish him when he goes potty inside
3. we take him out every few hours so he gets that his business is to be done outside
4. he is getting good about it no inside(the house) accidents.
5. When ever i take him to similarly floor spaced buildings he is fine
6. when i take him to bigger floor spaced buildings he just stops and potties and doesn't seem to translate the potty training rules from home
7. Help, what do i do
8. why isn't he transferring the rules to bigger buildings
9. all other dogs I've had have given signs to say hey i need to go git me out
10. he doesn't he just goes

 

my pup doesn't show signs either, but he is only 11 weeks old. He went to petsmart and pottied on the floor, i think it was the excitement and nervousness of being in a new area that he couldn't hold it. But luckily they have woopsie stations.

 

ya if only the places i go to have those.

 

Hmm, My dog is still iffie about new large floor spaces and he's 12 years old. I think theres a a tonne of contributing factores to this : how do you discipline your dog when he pees inside your house and how do you react when he does the same thing in a large building? It should be consistant. Also, as Kendalle said, excitement and new territory and smells will excite his bladder.!! ^.^ Im not sure but I think it might need work in the stationary discipline area... Let us know

 

well we tell him no show him what he has done and rubb his nose in it then take him outside for 10-20 min then while he is out we clean and disinfect the area so there isn't a smell anymore. we also take him out every few hours but when school starts he is going to have to get use to being inside from 6:30 am to 2 pm and from 3 pm to 8:30 pm like the rest of our dogs and school for me starts Sept. 2nd. and sometimes he will be going to school with me for service dog training work so he can get use to a more crowded environment and i can't have him peeing and pooing in the school

 

You should NEVER rub a dogs nose in his pee. That will most certainly NOT 'teach' him anyhting more than that his masters are mean. Heres some links I searched for you,
http://www.seefido.com/dog-discussi...rum/general-dog-behavior-training-problems-f10/dog-pees-when-excited-t5550.html
http://www.oes.org/page2/715~Peeing_When_Excited.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081231211758AAKCJ51

Hope these help

 

You should NEVER rub a dogs nose in his pee. That will most certainly NOT 'teach' him anything more than that his masters are mean. Heres some links I searched for you,
http://www.seefido.com/dog-discussi...rum/general-dog-behavior-training-problems-f10/dog-pees-when-excited-t5550.html
http://www.oes.org/page2/715~Peeing_When_Excited.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081231211758AAKCJ51

Hope these help

Its the technique my mom and my grandma have used with all of their/our dogs and non of our dogs have had an issue with fear usually they transfer potty training rules from the house to the outside world with out an issue and they have no fears

 

It seems that some dogs, instead of learning "I have to go outside ALL the time", instead learn "I can't go to the bathroom inside this particular house". So they will know not to go inside your home, but won't really translate that to not going inside any building. Does that make sense?

Before you take him into diffrent buildings, do you walk him around outside so he has a chance to go outside before he goes in? If he goes outside, praise him like crazy. If he goes inside, calmly take him outside and wait for him to finish outside, and praise him when he does. If I catch my dog going inside, I clap my hands and tell him "no", and take him outside. That's the extent of my discipline, I never rub his nose in it or anything. If he goes outside though, he gets a treat and lots of praise.

It honestly sounds to me like you just need more time and to work with him more untill he gets it. If you can, try taking him to friends houses and into diffrent buildings and working on his training there as well, so that hopefully soon he will understand that he always has to go outside no matter what building he's in.

 

yes we potty him outside before hand

 

No, I dont think there's much differnce in training a puppy as to a child to use potty or outside. At least a child can understand your language when you explain the potty. Puppy has no way of translating your anger to his mess in the house.
As for the generations thing, for generations the Hutu's and the Tutsi's in Africa have been fighting and in India the Hindi's against the Muslims. This doesnt make it right-when a positve and a clearer headed alternative is found people favor it(protesting the war, making a change to stop such). Rubbing a dog's nose in his pee MAY eventually "train" it but there are positive alternatives, the most effective being a scolding.

 

Don't worry. At times it might happen because of the change in the place. Try to reform this habit while you are in a big place because it is natural that the vastness of the place is associated with the habit.

 

Really? Im not sure that Religious battles and genocide have anything to do with disciplining your dog. That was a bit uncalled for.

 

Trying to make a point- -_-

 

so basically the fact that i used my methods to potty train and its been a little over a week since we got him and i left him loose today instead of crating while i was gone and he hasn't made a mess inside all day isn't ok. I mean he isn't scarred for life. he still wants to be near me every second of every day. i haven't broken his puppy spirit and he isn't fearful of me. and all i had to do was punish him for pottying in the house.

so i mean i guess if you don't want quick results and you want to be nice and just assume over time he will get whats wrong and you want to clean up messes you don't have to then your methods work but for those of us that don't want to be potty training for months my methods work better.

i mean i have friends who use your potty training methods and its been a min of a year and their dogs still aren't trained. all of mine are within the first month.

@ Purple-Hops - If they don't have the comprehension they aren't going to understand a scolding either. when they are part of a pack the leader will nip them, or shake them, to discipline them then they learn what they did was wrong. this is no different.

 

I can agree with the whole shutting her outside thing but rubbing her nose in her pee wont help! Puppys eat anything so it doesnt bother them, they will just lick it off! We show ours what shes done wrong by pointing at it and saying no, giving her a light tap on the nose and shutting her outside for 15-20 minuites. She is 11 weeks old and hasnt 'gone' inside in nearly a week

 

My dog has never had his nose rubbed in his own urine. I wouldnt want to go ahead and rub my child's nose in their urine, nor would I appreciate my nose being rubbed in my own urine. Urinating is a natural element, it cannot be helped. To train a puppy that this natural feeling to pee but only in certain areas by aggressively rubbing his nose sounds totally out dated and un neccessary to me. Im sorry, thats my opinion. We obviously share different opinions here on the matter. I dont care how long it takes to train a puppy, Im not rubbing his nose in his urine. Also, I firmly believe a dog can be trained in a non-physical way. I have never hit my dog to train him anything-I am the leader of the 'pack' but through other non-verbal (body language) to establish dominace. It only happens that although he would certainly like the crown of top-dog, he lacks the thumbs and height to feed himself. And tone of voice sure works wonders! A quick, high pitched "YIP" to a puppy means you were hurt by whatever he just did. Just as an example.
Its great that your puppy doesnt pee in the house anymore, I just dont agree with your method, das all